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I wonder what idiot removed them in the first place
1 posted on 06/19/2024 1:19:47 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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“I wonder what idiot removed them in the first place”

Since the article conveniently fails to mention it I have good idea who it was


2 posted on 06/19/2024 1:23:46 PM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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A nameless faceless non-elected bureaucrat who can’t be fired.


3 posted on 06/19/2024 1:24:10 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I was drowning in self pity until I bathed in the refreshing Lake of Respect.)
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Yet just how much havoc — both to their immediate prey and much farther down the line — remains unclear due to a dearth of data, according to the study, published Wednesday in BioScience.

Conclusions in the absence of data aren't science.

5 posted on 06/19/2024 1:25:36 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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They’re just like Fluffy and Rascal(🐩🐕). Playful little pups. 🤔


6 posted on 06/19/2024 1:26:57 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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Ordinarily I’d read an article with a title like that. But since it’s The Hill and likely to be wrong....


7 posted on 06/19/2024 1:26:58 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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Yet just how much havoc — both to their immediate prey and much farther down the line — remains unclear due to a dearth of data, according to the study

So, their whole "study" is nothing more than a data-less pile of liberal fantasies.

8 posted on 06/19/2024 1:28:07 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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Can’t we just expand Elk Season?


9 posted on 06/19/2024 1:28:56 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Stormy Daniels is a McGuffin)
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Utterly retarded. An explosion of elk has overgrazed the west? Bullcrap. There were 60 million buffalo out there.
Kinda nice to be able to go into large parts of the west and not need to worry about a wolfpack at night or grizzly bear attacks.

But some university chick will be along to tell us how we can reverently worship the deadly animals. This is right up there with morons not killing rattlers.


10 posted on 06/19/2024 1:31:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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The “idiot” who removed them were the settlers that wanted to live in the west. It’s kind of hard to raise the livestock needed to live on farmsteads with wolves running all over the place. This article is from The Hill which is of course going to take the greenie perspective. If you wanted to settle the west then wolves had to be removed, they’re incompatible with higher density human habitation. The fact that it would change the predator/prey relationship was a given. How many bison do you see today in downtown L.A. or Denver? Same thing, if you want people to live there then some animals have to be removed.


11 posted on 06/19/2024 1:31:19 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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We should test the hypothesis by releasing a few dozen packs of gray wolves in DC. Once we’ve amassed some data, we can figure out what to do next.


12 posted on 06/19/2024 1:31:42 PM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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I wonder what idiot removed them in the first place


Farmers and ranchers who were tired of their flocks/herds being prey to wolves.

It’s fascinating to me that people wanting to see dangerous predators reintroduced into the wild rarely want to see them brought to their neighborhoods.

I’m sure that back in the day rattlesnakes lived on Manhattan Island and played a large role in the local ecosystem. They should be brought back.


13 posted on 06/19/2024 1:32:28 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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“ I wonder what idiot removed them in the first place”

Hmm , settler’s and ranchers in the 1800’s.
For good reason


14 posted on 06/19/2024 1:34:03 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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Anyone know just what a plant community is??


15 posted on 06/19/2024 1:35:53 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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With reintroduction of wolves to areas where they were eradicated, we are seeing why our forefathers got rid of them to begin with.

Given the wolf populations in Canada and Alaska, wolves being rare in their previous ranges in the continental US does not threaten their existence.

19 posted on 06/19/2024 1:46:24 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Re-elect Donald Trump - AGAIN)
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Exactly how many elk did wolves take down. Seems to me they eat a lot of smaller game.

Elk = food...

21 posted on 06/19/2024 1:50:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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"By the 1930s, wolves were largely absent from the American West, including its national parks."

The only thing I could find in most of the articles published was: By the 1930s, wolves were largely absent from the American West, including its national parks."

Now that could have been from hunting, or some other reason. Gray wolves were at once a protected species. An MSNBC article said that gray wolves had been removed from National Parks from 1955 to 2021.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service reports on their site that: "In 1978, the Service published a rule reclassifying the gray wolf as an endangered population at the taxonomic species level (C. lupus) throughout the contiguous United States and Mexico, except for the Minnesota gray wolf population, which was classified as threatened."

In late 2020, the Trump administration removed gray wolves from the endangered list citing their successful comeback. The Biden Admin surprisingly supported that decision but their protection in 44 states was restored by a Judge in February 2022.

23 posted on 06/19/2024 1:56:12 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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The writer;

“Sharon is an award-winning staff reporter for The Hill, covering Western climate & policy from her home base in Boulder, Colorado, while also co-authoring a book about the impacts of “forever chemicals” (PFAS) on American communities. She was the recipient of a 2022 SEAL Environmental Journalism Award, and she spent the 2019-2020 academic year as a Ted Scripps Fellow in Environmental Journalism at the University of Colorado Boulder. Sharon came to Colorado after nearly a decade in Israel, where she primarily reported on environment, energy and agriculture for The Jerusalem Post. Her work has also appeared in a variety of other outlets, such as The Forward, Ensia, The Colorado Sun, National Geographic News, The Jewish Chronicle, The NY Jewish Week, Hadassah Magazine and Condé Nast Traveller. Sharon was honored by The Heschel Center for Environmental Learning and Leadership and the Pratt Foundation in May 2013 for her significant contribution to environmental journalism in Israel. In addition, she taught a course on Professional English for Media Studies to undergraduate students at the College of Management Academic Studies in Rishon Lezion, in both 2015 and 2017.

Prior to her move to the Middle East, Sharon was a staff writer at The NY Jewish Week. She earned her MSc from Columbia University’s Graduate School of Journalism in 2008 and a BA in English from the University of Pennsylvania in 2007. Sharon grew up in New Jersey. She enjoys spending time with her husband and two children, as well as running, playing tennis, hiking, reading and gardening.”

Total Israeli, Penn, NYC, DC libtard who knows how people should live in the west.


24 posted on 06/19/2024 2:01:26 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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Yeah its OK for wolves to kill and eat ranchers’ cattle, the occasional pet, small child, and female hiker ... all you have to do is get a picture of the culprit in the act and send it to Wildlife who will sometimes reimburse you for your loss.

When reintroduction of wolves is put to the ballot, urban people who have never seen a cute fuzzy wolf overwhelmingly vote ‘yes. and rural folk who have to deal with the consequences overwhelmingly vote ‘no’,

Since there are more urban than rural folk, the eyes have it.

Sometimes its best to leave well enough alone, else lets bring back real apex predators, like Short-Faced bears, Dire wolves, and Smilodons.


25 posted on 06/19/2024 2:06:57 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I seem to remember about the parks service reintroducing wolves into Yellowstone or something. IMO, man (humans) are not equipped to be doing that kind of eco-manipulation. Next thing they’ll be wanting is to ‘reintroduce’ coyotes to the suburbs or something.


30 posted on 06/19/2024 2:20:05 PM PDT by Gaffer
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You know those wolves were originally in NYC, Chicago, Baltimore, etc areas. Maybe they should be re-introduced into those areas, along with bears, to return those areas to their natural state ... just look at those areas and what they have become without major predators to keep things in ecological balance.


32 posted on 06/19/2024 2:33:36 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (We used to be a Republic, we are now a Fascist Klepto-Thugocracy.)
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