Posted on 06/18/2024 3:47:07 AM PDT by fwdude
De-Industrialization and financialization are on him as well.
Same with Thatcher.
The state doesn't "sanction" marriage so much as simply recognize and record it. Otherwise, there would be competence testing before marriage, license renewal, and specific requirements for a marriage.
From a legal and cultural standpoint, putting “marriage” under the umbrella of contract law would do far more to protect it than meddling with a fundamentally flawed institution.
On the contrary, it would completely destroy it.
Marriage is NOT a "contract," although it usually includes one. It is fundamentally much more than that.
I'm wondering whether we need two tiers of "divorce," one when children are involved and one for everything else, including gay contracts. It wouldn't have changed anything for our family, but it would make the true purpose of marriage and its attendant level of commitment clearer. Counseling is a lot cheaper than lawyers.
Men were “cheating constantly” with “most” having mistresses? That’s a pretty bold claim. Unless you’re referring solely to the idle rich in which case that statement might have some bit of truth, the idea that it was widespread is just a feminist anti-marriage fantasy.
I have to give the Left credit for ‘no-fault’ divorce as it GREATLY weakened families and allowed government to get SOLID CONTROL of kids, as we see with the Gaza protests, for example.
I know. That's why I put "marriage" in quotes in my prior post. The government had no business getting involved in marriage in the first place. I'm surprised churches haven't been more open about recognizing this. The government's only involvement (to the extent there even is one) is in the enforcement of contracts that may or may not have anything to do with a sacramental marriage.
Sometimes. But the exception shouldn't define the rule.
Making no-fault divorce available across the board has devastated families at all levels.
I remember in the 70's the swinger culture was really getting hot with people who were married but were GOING to get divorced. That somehow made them "available." The spiral downward was swift.
There are just too many practical outworkings of marriage for the government to be hands off. It is woven into society, so there are requirements and expectations of the participants. Otherwise, marital anarchy.
well obviously having more time and money provides more opportunities.
And obviously a married couple living out in the woods has fewer issues than one living in a city, especially with the man working outside of the home.
I am not sure of course of the percentages, but I think it is fair to say that men tend to be wired more for cheating than women, and given the opportunity due to circumstances they will cheat more.
Society was rigged against married women historically. Women were more or less considered the property of the man, much the same as children were considered the property of the father (which is why a dad “gave” away his daughter in married to another man who would then be her owner. The marriage ring (which originally only women wore) signified slavery, and that you were “owned” by a man.
Women could get a divorce even back in the day, but they would have lost everything, and weren’t even allowed to open bank accounts, own property, sign a contract or work in many cases. This is what kept the divorce rate down, not “no fault divorce”.
Works both ways
Remember when was just let homosexuals enjoy their private lives 40 years ago?
Look where that led
Homosexual marriage the watershed
Mutilation
Indoctrinating kids
Pride wank off parades
DEI privilege
Every movie with plot unrelated queer positive
And yes divorce while attainable should require effort
Women instigate most divorce now because it still cost them less and they usual boss dawg custody
He ALLOWED divorce for sinful men. MEN invented it.
A prenup does not protect you from abandonment by your spouse.
The first thing to do here is investigate the writer: Anna North. Guess what; its not easy. She’s a sexual deviant God hater who hates the traditional family and all that it implies. She spends her life hating and assaulting other people while she hides everything about herself. She is hopelessly and morally Lost. Her writing reveals her sad estate. Pray for her; nothing is impossible.
The ones who are believers in the religion of leftism are coming for marriage.
Jesus begs to differ.
Making divorce limited and difficult would be a good thing for a fallen society to right itself. Having strict parental responsibilities to the children would also be appropriate. Marriage is not a dating issue, it is the most important single act any individual makes in their life. It should be treated as such.
As someone else pointed out earlier in this thread, a contract for a car loan is legally stronger in the U.S. today than a marriage. How pathetic. So the government should treat a marriage like a car loan to make it stronger.
“No fault” divorce isn’t the problem. It simply allows people to divorce without sharing all the sordid details in court. People shouldn’t be locked into bad marriages because they cannot afford the legal cost.
The real problem is there’s no penalty for the spouse who broke up the marriage.
You break up your marriage when you either (1) abandon your spouse, (2) commit adultery, or (3) purposely put your spouse in danger. (As a side note, I would argue that committing adultery is putting your spouse in danger.)
But, the courts ignore those factors. So, the court will award alimony to a spouse who cheated. The court will order you to pay half of the debt your spouse hid from you. And so on.
That’s the real problem with divorce today. That’s the problem people should want to fix.
A spouse who cheated shouldn’t be entitled to alimony or child custody. A spouse who divorces because he or she is bored with the marriage (abandonment) shouldn’t be entitled to alimony or child custody, either.
“I would have thought the more prudent approach for Christians is to end state-sanctioned “marriage” entirely.”
designed by mankind.
Whatever relationships are in eternity. They are and will be eternal. Fixed and unalterable by eternity.
Mary and Joseph are still the male/female team God created to be his earth born parents.
Children are the manifestation of the eternal living covenant God has made with a man and a woman.
man and woman are in point of fact ... One.
Demonic government OWNS the fake covenant (contract now) that is called marriage.
no matter your relationship with your spouse during this present age... in eternity you will not love your current spouse LESS, you will love them more.
Being married and given (legally contractually) will continue as a government construct designed by mankind UNTIL the Kingdom of God manifests and makes it forever obsolete and for now is a failing shadow of the blissful eternal state to come.
legal marriage and no fault, pull the ripcord whenever, “divorce, annulment” and the like... are NOT the foundation for two becoming one forever.
When Christ resurrected from the dead, his forever commitment to his Father ordained “eternal wife” was cast in stone forever... he is not separated from his church today... but he and his “church” are one... even though we bicker from time to time in the temporal state.
joining two as one, is NOT POSSIBLE for government, no matter how many laws they generate to try and turn it into the REAL thing.
Government does NOT have any relationship to actually forming the “two are now one” process God alone owns.
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