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Historic SS United States is ordered out of its berth in Philadelphia. Can it find new shores?
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| June 17, 2024
Posted on 06/17/2024 2:59:26 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin
PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The SS United States, a historic ship that still holds the transatlantic speed record it set more than 70 years ago, must leave its berth on the Delaware River in Philadelphia by Sept. 12, a federal judge says.
The decision issued Friday by U.S. District Judge Anita Brody culminated a years-old rent dispute between the conservancy that oversees the 1,000-foot ocean liner and its landlord, Penn Warehousing. It stemmed from an August 2021 decision by Penn Warehousing to double the ship's daily dockage to $1,700, an increase the conservancy refused to accept.
When the conservancy continued to pay its previous rate, set in 2011, Penn Warehousing terminated the lease in March 2022. After much legal wrangling, Brody held a bench trial in January but also encouraged the two sides to reach a settlement instead of leaving it up to her.
The judge ultimately ruled that the conservancy’s failure to pay the new rate did not amount to a contract breach or entitle Penn Warehousing to damages. But she also ruled that under Pennsylvania contract law, the berthing agreement is terminable at will with reasonable notice, which Penn Warehousing had issued in March 2022.
“The judge’s decision gives us a very limited window to find a new home for the SS United States and raise the resources necessary to move the ship and keep her safe,” Susan Gibbs, conservancy president and granddaughter of the ship’s designer, told The Philadelphia Inquirer.
Besides finding a new home, the conservancy also must obtain funds for insurance, tugs, surveys and dock preparations for a move.
... said Craig Mills, an attorney for Penn Warehousing. “But after decades of decay and delay, it is time to acknowledge the unavoidable and return Pier 82 to productive commercial service.”
(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: anitabrody; craigmills; delawareriver; godsgravesglyphs; navigation; pennsylvania; pennwarehousing; philadelphia; ssunitedstates; susangibbs
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To: Stosh
They are all EVs...hybrids...........
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posted on
06/18/2024 5:44:44 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
To: Dr. Franklin
Celebrities flying commercial airlines can be seen sometimes, but sailing with one would be a longer experience with more possibilities for interaction. How did the car get loaded? Was it just driven aboard?
Have to make a correction: I still have the original Passenger List and the date of our trip was January 11, 1956, not 57. John Wayne is listed. I am listed with the title of Miss in front off my name. We stayed at the old Henry Hudson Hotel before embarking. Don’t remember if the car was lifted aboard or if driven. I was given horrible tasting cherry liquid Dramamine also before boarding. The streets of New York were slippery and icy and I marveled as a child looking up at the tall skyscrapers and hearing all of the honking horns of cars echoing. Strange what you remember as a child. Sounds are not forgotten.
Anyway, when my parents were in the ballroom for whatever adult festivities/entertainment that was happening I would ingratiate myself with the staff in the kitchen and slid on my knees in my pajamas down the slippery corridors for fun. I was amazed at the round honeydew and cantaloupe melon balls served to me in these short pedestaled silver bowls. And the very rare roast beef was to die for. I still have a few Breakfast and Dinner Menus that my father passed to me before his death. On the wall next to my bed was a red and green steward and stewardess button to call for service. I would press the button and tell them I wanted a plate of grapes and they actually brought them to me. It was like a dream to a little nine year old girl.
My mother later told me that she saw John Wayne with a different woman every night, LOL!
The breakfast menu for example had the following:
Under the heading of Preserves you had the selection of Jams: blackberry, raspberry, strawberry, cherry, apricot, damson, peach, or plums. Under Jellies: Red current, guava, strawberry, or Bar le Dun (Red) Preisselbeeren. My Goodness!
The dinner entrees were from another world!
To: acoulterfan
I think it is horrible that she is just being left to rust. She should’ve been sent to her grave many years ago!! This is just so disrespectful!!
To: acoulterfan
To: acoulterfan; All
Anyway, when my parents were in the ballroom for whatever adult festivities/entertainment that was happening I would ingratiate myself with the staff in the kitchen and slid on my knees in my pajamas down the slippery corridors for fun. I was amazed at the round honeydew and cantaloupe melon balls served to me in these short pedestaled silver bowls. And the very rare roast beef was to die for. I still have a few Breakfast and Dinner Menus that my father passed to me before his death. On the wall next to my bed was a red and green steward and stewardess button to call for service. I would press the button and tell them I wanted a plate of grapes and they actually brought them to me. It was like a dream to a little nine year old girl.
They could still recreate that atmosphere as part of five star floating hotel. It's present location is close to the sports stadiums and not far from Philadelphia International Airport. It could do weddings and other big events. I was down there in the Spring to watch the U.S.S. New Jersey go by on its way to the Navy Yard for dry dock work. There are some old piers nearby that the city has turned into parks that could be dredged out to give the ship a new berth. The city would need to get involved. If the conservancy didn't have to pay rent every month, that money could be used to refurbish the great ship. Things can be done, but only if government makes an effort to save the ship.
My mother later told me that she saw John Wayne with a different woman every night, LOL!
Mel Brooks famously declared, "It's good to be the king!", but being the Duke was also good as well.
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posted on
06/18/2024 10:16:14 AM PDT
by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
To: Dr. Franklin
I’m not recommending Baltimore.
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posted on
06/18/2024 11:09:46 AM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
To: Albion Wilde
I’m not recommending Baltimore.
I'm sure there's room for it Philly somewhere. It doesn't have to go far.
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posted on
06/18/2024 1:26:36 PM PDT
by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
To: Dr. Franklin
That is the best idea. Hope some non-greedy docking company siezes the opportunity.
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posted on
06/18/2024 1:29:46 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
To: Albion Wilde
That is the best idea. Hope some non-greedy docking company siezes the opportunity.
Between just North of where it is now, just north of the Walt Whitman Bridge and Penn's Landing, just South of the Ben Franklin Bridge, there are quite a few decaying piers and wharfs that the city could condemn, if it doesn't own them already, and dredge the waters nearby to accoomodate the ship. If the ship doesn't need to pay rent, more money can go to restoration. Since the United States was born in Philadelphia, Philadelphia is fine home for the SS United States as a floating hotel.
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posted on
06/18/2024 2:02:13 PM PDT
by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
To: Dr. Franklin
I hope you contact your City Council rep with this idea. Or whatever agency runs the waterfront — Public Works?
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posted on
06/18/2024 2:55:06 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
To: Albion Wilde; All
I hope you contact your City Council rep with this idea. Or whatever agency runs the waterfront — Public Works? There is an abandoned pier that shows up on Google Maps as "Chicken Pier" (beacause some guy used to eat a whole chicken there each night) just North of where the ship is now that looks servicable:
Chicken Pier It's a bit of a homeless camp now, so the ship there would be urban renewal of sorts. They would just need to dredge a place for the ship next to it. I am thinking maybe starting an online petition to someone to take action. Maybe someone has some suggestions for that.
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posted on
06/18/2024 5:12:06 PM PDT
by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
To: Dr. Franklin
That’s a good idea. Be sure to let City officials know about it. You could do a Facebook page to drum up interest.
I moved away from Philly decades ago, but will always love the special features of that place, like the waterfront.
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posted on
06/18/2024 6:51:48 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
To: Dr. Franklin; All
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posted on
06/21/2024 12:54:21 PM PDT
by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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