I think it is to say a company can’t find a US citizen for the job, so they then get to hire another H-1B, instead.
Companies have to show they posted it, and had no success, even when the H-1B was their desire, from Day 1.
My company sold off the factories and product lines I was responsible for, thus eliminating my role about 8 weeks back. I’ve applied to about 25 jobs so far. 2-3 actually told me the job was filled, or I wasn’t right for it. 1 contacted me for a phone screen with HR. All the others have been no contact at all....many of which reposted the same roles within a week or so.
I just keep applying knowing that a lot of them are fake and use them to show my job search activity for my weekly unemployment applications.
In the meantime I’m day trading stocks and making about the same as I did working full time (so far)....though taxes will be a larger % due to the higher rate on short term capital gains. I’m taking most of the profit and rolling it into short term T-Bills (using ETF symbol BIL that pays a monthly dividend) at over 5%. Goal is to replace 1/2 my salary by year end with dividend income...so far have achieved 3% of my goal in 6 weeks.
Gather round and hear a story from old uncle Frank. A couple of years ago I was looking for a new gig and got a couple of e-mails from recruiters with Cybercoders. They asked if I was interested, and stated that if I WAS interested that I should respond with my resume. I did as they requested, and got no response. I tried calling, no answer, voicemail, no return calls. I e-mailed them, nothing. I called the company and asked to be transferred to them, 5 rings, voicemail. Then I started googling unique phrases from the job listings. And I found that ONE of the jobs was NOT in the Washington state area that I live in, but was in Mexico, and had been closed 2 months prior. The other job really did exist though. I contacted the company that had the opening, and applied and ended up getting the job. When I got there I asked about their relationship with Cybercoders, and they told me that they didn’t HAVE one, and were unsure what I was talking about. I sent them the e-mail that I have received about the job. They said they had never so much as HEARD of them before. I contacted the recruiter from cybercoders and he finally started to respond. I asked who at the company he had talked to and he gave me a name. I went straight to that guy and asked him “Do you know this guy?” He says he doesn’t. The recruiter and I went back and forth for about 2 days with the recruiter assuring me that this was a real job, and that he was representing them, and all of that. Only, I had to go AROUND him to get an interview.
Anyway long story long, I sent him a picture of me standing in their offices in front of a sign with their name on it, and he was shocked. But he never gave up the game. Never admitted that he had found the listing online and “made it his own”. Despite the fact that the guy he says he knows denies ever having heard of him. Finally he asked “Why I was mad”. Why? Because you never submitted my resume! I got this job on my own!
Companies play all kind of games.
Friend of mine took a job offer, quit his job and showed up at his new employer. They told him he was in competition with 2 other new hires, all for one position. The other two guys had also quit their jobs also.
It was for a training position and the three of them had to do a presentation showing what their skills were. My friend gave the best presentation and was hired, the other two guys were out of luck. They were paid for a couple of days, so legally they had been hired and fired, but in reality they never actually had a job.
Sounded like lawsuit time to me, but who knows if an attorney would even take the case. All the employer had to say is that the guys didn’t have the skills, etc.
This is so true. I feel like I’ve been looking for work over the past year and a half, got a string of 3+ month IT contracts. The repeat job postings become clear over time, the dead silence for perfectly matched jobs, etc. I actually wrote on this topic last week, I’ll repost on FR. A bit of venting. It is discouraging. Personally, I haven’t figured out how to play the current game. I suspect the key is personal networking, who you know.
Applying for a job online is a sucker bet. HR Departments who already don’t know what the needs of the hiring manager are in the first place, send it out to an online engine like Workaday who rely on the inside recruiters lack of understanding in the second place, and the hiring engine botches it further with their algorithm in the last place.
I applied for a job online and also had a contact at the company who put my CV right in front of the hiring manager. I ended up with an offer. Same day, I received an auto rejection from the online hiring engine. Evidently, I was both perfect for the job and “not quite the fit they were looking for” all in the same day.
I am also convinced that firms use the online engines to create a layer of protection so that they can have rampant DEI hiring policies. I have too many friends who have applied for jobs online and gotten dinged when they are a perfect fit in the job description.
When I was looking for work a few years ago, it seemed like every company was using an employment management software called Taleo. No matter how I applied on Taleo applications, I never got a response. I remember going into online forms where dozens of people never got a response on these applications and no one ever reported a response. One thing about those job openings is they would be posted again the day after the prior posting closed.
Jobs are created on the spot when hiring managers meet potential employees who can successfully perform the job…on the spot, in front of them.
What probably happened in 90% of these cases is that HR’s diversity screening software automatically deleted resumes without an adequate number of keywords, but the hiring manager had a friend at another company who introduced a great candidate at a conference - and that individual got hired right away with minimal HR involvement.
Even in my HR-free small business, most employees we hire are people we meet at industry events or through customers. Online job postings are expensive and astoundingly useless at surfacing high-character individuals.
I had a great relationship with the man who owned the contracting company I was working for. I was on assignment as a program manager at a major military contractor. But as an essentially temp worker, I kept scanning the job postings. Then I came across a posting from my employer for a job I was not only qualified for but was essentially doing and getting rave reviews. I phoned him right away. There was an embarrassed bit of hemming and hawing and then he explained that he needed to continually collect resumes in case he got a requirement for such a job as he’d need to submit several qualified candidates right away. Knowing his whole client list and their requirements, I kept an eye on his listings. Most of the time, he had ten or so “Need to fill now” listings when I knew he had zero openings. Now, multiply that by all the headhunters and I’d say the estimate that nearly half of all online job openings are bogus is probably an under count.
If you’re in a no skill job, like clerk or checker, you can literally walk down the street in any city and find work. Yesterday they were breaking in new checkers at the registers in my local ACE. I was chatting with one and she had upgraded to ACE from the local McDonalds the week before. As had the other checkers. The McDonalds is advertising a 15-19 dollar starting pay. Two decades ago, with my own engineering company I couldn’t bill $20 per hour.
I’m fortunate enough to work in a field where it’s not difficult to steer clear of online application processes entirely. I will only work for employers who I know well before I even apply there, and it’s not uncommon for these employers to hire professionals before they even post the job online — and the job posting is just a formality for HR/legal purposes.
Interesting. I had a company recruit me and got me to sign a letter of intent so that they could use me as a part of a proposal for a federal government contract. I have 40+ years of experience in my field.
Once they won the contract, they ghosted me. They then hired a guy with about 5 years of experience.
HR is a make work job for a bunch of misguided busy bodies with an inflated self-assessment of themselves. If it were not for SOX they would never have gained the power they have.
I was looking for a job in 2003 and I saw a posting when I was at a temp agency and figured out who the company was by the photo they had as I had drove by that building and I mailed my resume in.
I was told they only hire thru a temp agency and was disqualified from being hired by contacting them directly....