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Ocean water is rushing miles underneath the ‘Doomsday Glacier’ with potentially dire impacts on sea level rise
cnn.com ^ | 5/21/2024 | Laura Paddison,

Posted on 05/21/2024 8:35:03 AM PDT by rktman

Ocean water is pushing miles beneath Antarctica’s “Doomsday Glacier,” making it more vulnerable to melting than previously thought, according to new research which used radar data from space to perform an X-ray of the crucial glacier.

As the salty, relatively warm ocean water meets the ice, it’s causing “vigorous melting” underneath the glacier and could mean global sea level rise projections are being underestimated, according to the study published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

The Thwaites Glacier in West Antarctica — nicknamed the “Doomsday Glacier” because its collapse could cause catastrophic sea level rise — is the world’s widest glacier and roughly the size of Florida. It’s also Antarctica’s most vulnerable and unstable glacier, in large part because the land on which it sits slopes downward, allowing ocean waters to eat away at its ice.

Thwaites, which already contributes 4% to global sea level rise, holds enough ice to raise sea levels by more than 2 feet. But because it also acts as a natural dam to the surrounding ice in West Antarctica, scientists have estimated its complete collapse could ultimately lead to around 10 feet of sea level rise — a catastrophe for the world’s coastal communities.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antarctic; antarctica; catastrophism; doomsdayglacier; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; gangreen; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; sandbags; thwaitesglacier; weredoomed; westantarctica
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To: NorthMountain
Thanks. Tonight I'm going to conduct a slightly modified version of the experiment you mentioned.

To two ounces of bourbon, a half ounce of orange curacao, and a few jiggers of bitters I will add one large ice cube and stir.

I will then determine if the mixture increases or decreases my anxiety level with regard to global warming... er... climate change.

81 posted on 05/21/2024 10:23:24 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (Kafka was an optimist.)
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To: Jane Long

8^)


82 posted on 05/21/2024 10:24:54 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: elpadre

Yeah, well we’re over 5,000 in elevation and can find ocean fossils too up in the mountains. Seems almost like folks have no historical Knowledge. Only hysterical knowledge. 😊👍


83 posted on 05/21/2024 10:26:01 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

May I recommend two experiments?

Once with the ice floating in the spirits, the other with the ice stacked from the bottom of the glass to above the liquid level?

Of course, the liquid volume in the glass will likely decrease during the experiment, rendering the results meaningless ...

But I prefer my bourbon neat.


84 posted on 05/21/2024 10:27:09 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: TexasGator

But, if it’s a glacier and not and iceberg, how is ocean eater “rushing” beneath it?


85 posted on 05/21/2024 10:28:12 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

You will find that the liquid level in the glass actually decreases as the evening wears on. Yay, science!


86 posted on 05/21/2024 10:28:16 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rktman

I went to the Dr, he ordered X rays from space using radar to diagnose my problem.


87 posted on 05/21/2024 10:29:52 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: Hot Tabasco

This is what I was wondering about:

https://brilliantio.com/why-is-pacific-ocean-higher-than-the-atlantic/

Would the fresh water of the glacier vs the salinity of the oceans affect the direction of its flow? Would the different temperatures of the oceans attract or repel its flow?


88 posted on 05/21/2024 10:30:13 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: Mr. Lucky

What if it flips over like Guam?


89 posted on 05/21/2024 10:32:00 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: NorthMountain

If it breaks off, it will float.......
If it breaks off, it will:

1) no longer be supported by land.

2) be driven into warmer waters where it will melt.

Land ice entering the ocean increases the amount of water in the ocean.

3) It WILL cool the ocean, therby cooling the planet, triggering a new ice age.


90 posted on 05/21/2024 10:32:37 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: rktman

If Thwaites Glacier was to collapse entirely, global sea levels would increase by 65 cm (25 in) (Source: Bedmachine, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41561-019-0510-8#Sec7, gives total volume 483,000 km3; volume above flotation 258,000 km3, and sea level equivalent, 65 cm.)


91 posted on 05/21/2024 10:34:34 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Uncle Boozie was eaten by cannibals....)
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

The problem I have is with National Flood Insurance.
Meaning IF your house on the coast of Florida gets hit by a hurricane you will get paid to rebuild it. If you choose to rebuild it in the same place, and it gets wiped out again five years later by another hurricane, you will get paid again to rebuild it.

WE are subsidizing MULTI MILLIONAIRES over and over again to rebuild their beach houses. I think it is great that someone can afford to own a beach house. I have no problem with that. What I have an issue with is that I think you should only get to be reimbursed ONCE. After that IF you or anyone else wants to build in the same spot, you are on your own.

This also goes for flood plains around rivers in the USA or in the 9th Ward of New Orleans. If you knowingly build a house in a flood plain, even IF that flood only comes once every 100 years you should not be depending on the Federal Government to bail you out when it eventually gets flooded.

FYI, I just had this conversation with a buddy who is in the process of rebuilding his cottage in Wells, ME. It is across the street from the Atlantic Ocean. It got flooded in a storm this past winter.


92 posted on 05/21/2024 10:35:05 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Glad2bnuts
triggering a new ice age.

Back in the 1970s they were promising us a new ice age. They swore that in just a couple of decades, Cleveland would be buried under hundreds of feet of ice.

93 posted on 05/21/2024 10:35:15 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: elpadre

Fear mongers scream, THERE IS NO GOD, as they bow to worship Science.


94 posted on 05/21/2024 10:36:54 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: We should have set up ambushes...paraphrased)
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To: rktman

The only thing that can save humanity is higher taxes and eating only bugs!!


95 posted on 05/21/2024 10:39:16 AM PDT by Ignatz (The bees don't bother to tell the flies that honey tastes better than dung.)
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To: srmanuel
Wait - isn't this a great chance to pick up those ocean mansions in Martha's Vineyard 'on the cheap'?

96 posted on 05/21/2024 10:39:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (Watching Judge Merchan in acion is like watching a bought umpire throw a game...)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Which is true if when dealing with a free floating iceberg. It is not true regarding glacial ice that is not yet free floating (an iceberg.) Volumes of glacial ice currently moving across land that enter the sea will melt and eventually increase sea levels.

Lets hope that DC returns to a muddy marsh and produces something useful, like oysters or mussels.

97 posted on 05/21/2024 10:43:57 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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98 posted on 05/21/2024 10:46:13 AM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: srmanuel

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99 posted on 05/21/2024 10:51:42 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: TexasGator
This article is misleading, as usual. The Thwaites Glacier isn't going anywhere since it is land based. Part of what holds it in place is an ice shelf that juts out onto the surface of the ocean. The shelf acts like a cork, holding the glacier back on the land and providing an important defense against sea level rise.

Because that ice shelf is already floating, there would be no effect on ocean levels.

They always bring up the supposed danger of the glacier when the real concern is the ice shelf itself. If it were to break off, then it would allow the glacier to slide into the ocean over the course of one or two centuries....That of course ignores the fact that another ice shelf would likely form and halt the glacier slide.

100 posted on 05/21/2024 11:04:04 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Uncle Boozie was eaten by cannibals....)
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