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Biden’s polling denial: Why he doesn't believe he's behind
Axios via MSN ^ | 14 May 24 | Hans Nichols

Posted on 05/14/2024 1:52:24 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

President Biden doesn't believe his bad poll numbers, and neither do many of his closest advisers, according to people familiar with the matter.

Why it matters: The dismissiveness of the poor polling is sincere, not public spin, according to Democrats who have spoken privately with the president and his team.

That bedrock belief has informed Biden's largely steady-as-she-goes campaign — even as many Democrats outside the White House are agitating for the campaign to change direction, given that Biden is polling well behind where he was four years ago.

The public polling simply doesn't reflect the president's support, they say.

Driving the news: In public and private, Biden has been telling anyone who will listen that he's gaining ground — and is probably up — on Donald Trump in their rematch from 2020. "While the press doesn't write about it, the momentum is clearly in our favor, with the polls moving towards us and away from Trump," Biden told donors in Medina, Wash., on Saturday. A few days earlier, confronted with some of his bad poll numbers in a rare interview with CNN, Biden offered a more sweeping indictment of polling methodology.

"The polling data has been wrong all along. How many — you guys do a poll at CNN. How many folks you have to call to get one response?" Zoom in: The latest polling in the six battleground states likely to decide the presidential race — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — doesn't paint a rosy picture for Biden.

A new New York Times/Sienna survey, which sampled more than 4,000 people across the swing states, had Trump winning five of them among registered voters.

A Bloomberg News poll last month similarly found Biden trailing Trump in six of seven swing states (they also polled North Carolina).

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; basement; biden; bunker; dementiajoe; demonicrats; elections; joe; loserjoe; trump; trump2024
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To: Erik Latranyi

Either the Rats are planning ANOTHER BAIT AND SWITCH LIKE THE TORRICELLI- LAUTENBERG - DEBBIE PORITZ SWITCH IN NEW JERSEY- OR - AS GENERAL FLYNN SUGGESTS - they are planning a Natiinal “Emergency”. They control the REAL reins of power in the US - and its not the ballot box. Its FISA, the FBI, the CIA, Pentagon and NSF. And those idiot GOPe just funded them.


21 posted on 05/14/2024 3:05:03 AM PDT by ZULU (LAKEN REILLY - SAY HER NAME!!! JONATHAN DILLAR SAY HIS NAME!!!! ASHLEY BABBIT ' SAY HER NAME!!!!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

So he’s in denial like they accuse Trump?


22 posted on 05/14/2024 3:07:58 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: Erik Latranyi

“The public polling simply doesn’t reflect the president’s support, they say.”

But those kick-ass rallies with thousands of attendees prove that he’s ahead. Oh, wait...


23 posted on 05/14/2024 3:11:30 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Navarro didn't kill himself.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Polls are always meaningful. They predicted Biden’s narrow win.

Extended counting periods and polls predicting a narrow victory go hand in hand. It's called "plausible deniability".

As long as they know how many fake votes to create, and can give themselves the time to do it, they can win any election and always by a slim margin.

The election is nearly six months away. The polling could tell a very different story five months from now.

24 posted on 05/14/2024 3:24:27 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Nothing says "Democracy" like throwing your opponents in jail.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“President Biden doesn’t believe his bad poll numbers, and neither do many of his closest advisers, according to people familiar with the matter.”

When the results are already phoned in, Democrats do not even pretend to care what external input looks like. Obama 2012 was the best example. His debate with Romney was completely staged and so he phoned it in. Then the LSM takes over.


25 posted on 05/14/2024 3:26:26 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Give the Anti-Israel Protesters a one way ticket to fight with Hamas. )
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To: JonPreston
[polls mean little when you can sit in your basement]




26 posted on 05/14/2024 3:26:36 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: Zhang Fei

If you still think BiteMe got 81 million LEGIT votes in ‘20 then you are a hopeless fool.


27 posted on 05/14/2024 3:28:04 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Erik Latranyi

It will happen fast at the Convention in Chicago..Biden will be replaced with Big Mike and fast...Will shock the Public...


28 posted on 05/14/2024 3:31:25 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: Erik Latranyi

Brown shirts in AL

https://www.toddstarnes.com/crime/female-trump-volunteer-brutally-beaten-in-politically-motivated-attack/


29 posted on 05/14/2024 3:34:43 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Fresh Wind

[The election is nearly six months away. The polling could tell a very different story five months from now.]


Biden’s margin in 2020 shrank as the election approached. I expect this polling. For better or worse, Trump came off as a scumbag long before entering politics. Whereas Biden has always been perceived as a nice guy. Three years of Biden policies will likely have swung the apolitical voter from voting from the nice guy with loopy policies to the scumbag with sane ones.

To the extent the polls move, they’re likely to be in Trump’s favor. Because the answer to the question “are you better off than you were 4 years ago” isn’t looking good for Biden with a huge chunk of voters.


30 posted on 05/14/2024 3:34:52 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Illegal alien voters.


31 posted on 05/14/2024 3:36:57 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Because FJB did not win 2020
FJB will cheat to “win” 2024, or, mebe, 2020 was the last election


32 posted on 05/14/2024 3:37:17 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: Erik Latranyi

Polls don’t vote.


33 posted on 05/14/2024 3:39:35 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: All

Joe finished up his “kindly old man w/ faulty memory” act (to escape jail for mishandling classifieds).

Now Joenothing is into his “I’m a trusted beacon of Democrat leadership” reelection act.

Must be time for his “resurrect my dead war hero son” act, a proven vote-getter any moron in Delaware can tell ya.


34 posted on 05/14/2024 3:40:11 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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To: Zhang Fei
Trump came off as a scumbag long before entering politics.

Thank you for our morning dose of #NeverTrump. It's a pleasure watching you folks become marginalized.

35 posted on 05/14/2024 3:51:25 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: SaveFerris

:)


36 posted on 05/14/2024 3:53:01 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Liz; bitt; DJ MacWoW; musicman

to above


37 posted on 05/14/2024 3:55:01 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: spincaster

That’s the plan.

Republicans stop counting at 11:00 pm.

Dems go on for 2 weeks or until they produce the win.


38 posted on 05/14/2024 3:59:55 AM PDT by OakOak (Misinformation Campaign on your TV)
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To: central_va

[If you still think BiteMe got 81 million LEGIT votes in ‘20 then you are a hopeless fool.]


Having spent about forty hours looking through fraud allegations, I’m convinced Biden won and Trump lied, i.e. he knows he lost, but publicly maintains he believes he won as a political ploy. Every one of his advisors who had to testify under oath has admitted to being unable to prove fraud. But to preserve his political viability, to get a second chance for the 2024 primaries, he had to insist that he really won. Not the first time a pol has lied, won’t be the last. And it worked for him, so can’t argue with that.

People keep pointing to Trump rally size, but the fact is rally size means very little for get-out-the-vote (GOTV) drives. People who show up for rallies are already voting for the guy. A pol who does big rallies is just wasting his supporters’ time and his own campaign money. Traditional GOTV involves paying canvassers to get voters to the polls. Trump’s rallies were expensive, with one in Tulsa costing $2.2m. That could have paid for 100,000 canvasser hours.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/us/politics/trump-tulsa-rally-cost.html

Trump is back to his big rally antics again, spending huge sums to not move the needle. Biden is likely counting on GOTV to close the gap. And he will once again have a big money advantage for hiring canvassers.

Biden’s problem is that he is the incumbent in a period when many people feel worse off. The blank slate he had working for him in 2020 is in the rear view mirror. Many middle of the road people who picked him in 2020 now have buyer’s regret. So many of the people he helps bring to the polls in 2024 might end up voting against him.


39 posted on 05/14/2024 4:04:42 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Erik Latranyi

“It doesn’t matter how people vote, but who counts the votes”

One must claim polls are wrong if one wants to set the stage for cheating

“ I know the polls said we were down by five and we won by 5, no cheating, no fraud. The polls were wrong”

No matter how bad they think the potted plant is, the alternative is an existential threat to their way of life. After four more years of the greatest fraud system, it will only be better


40 posted on 05/14/2024 4:06:48 AM PDT by blitz128
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