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Live thread [05/03/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here
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Posted on 05/03/2024 8:06:27 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Edited on 05/03/2024 10:26:12 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The case blew up in their faces yesterday. Michael Cohen nailed for perjury by the prosecution’s own witness.

Update, some observations.

President Trump will be appealing the illegal gag order on constitutional grounds. Gag orders are normally applied to the prosecution to avoid tainting the jury pool.

It’s never intended to be used against the defendant. The prosecution by definition doesn’t need protection — the defendant does.

The case may never reach the jury. Another thing. SCOTUS’s pending ruling on immunity (June) may factor into this.

The alleged falsification of business records ALL took place AFTER Trump became president. An evidentiary hearing to sort what may have been executive vs personal actions would be in order. This another reason this trial should not have move forward before all the constitutional challenges were settled.

The statute of limitations on the alleged records falsification has already expired. So they turned an expired misdemeanor case into a felony by alleging that the falsification was in furtherance of another crime — a state election fraud law that doesn’t even apply to this case since Trump was a federal candidate.

Harvey Weinstein’s conviction was overturned for similar abuses of discretion by prosecutors in that case. They prejudiced the jury by hauling into the courtroom all kinds of stuff having no connection to the case at hand.

Hope Hicks.

She’s regurgitating stuff we already knew. Airing dirty laundry, nothing more. Still no crime. She wasn’t in the room during the supposed Pecker-Trump meeting in August, 2015. Which wouldn’t have been a crime either. This is the most laughable case I’ve ever witnessed.

Colangelo & co are making all the same mistakes the Weinstein prosecutors made. They’re trying to prejudice the jury by bringing in all this extraneous stuff to create the air of criminality.


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KEYWORDS: bidenreich; colangelo; electioninterference; fjb; hopehicks; hushmoneytrial; hushtrumptrial; nyc; perjury; political; showtrial; trial; trump; trumppersecution
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To: Red Badger

Yup.


21 posted on 05/03/2024 8:46:59 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Coronal

I “Hope” President Trump’s lawyers rip that treacherous skank to shreds in cross!


22 posted on 05/03/2024 8:47:15 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people...": ISLAM is the problem!)
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To: Chewbarkah

Bingo. The case may never reach the jury. Another thing. SCOTUS’s pending ruling on immunity (June) may factor into this. The alleged falsification of business records ALL took place AFTER Trump became president. An evidentiary hearing to sort what may have been executive vs personal actions would be in order. This is another reason why this trial should not have moved forward before all the constitutional challenges were settled.


23 posted on 05/03/2024 8:48:04 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Nervous Tick

They will ;-)


24 posted on 05/03/2024 8:48:58 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Coronal
Hope Hicks is taking the stand.

Another whore

25 posted on 05/03/2024 8:49:33 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Sidebar Moderator

The SCOTUS review has no bearing on the NY case. This isn’t about whatever acts may be covered by Presidential immunity as it all happened before he became President.


26 posted on 05/03/2024 8:50:06 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: 1Old Pro

Hope(-ing for a big book deal) Hicks..............


27 posted on 05/03/2024 8:52:11 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Apparently, the judge let into evidence Trump's social media responses to the 2005 Access Hollywood tape where Trump and Billy Bush crudely discussed women. How this relates to allegedly criminal bookkeeping entries, I do not know. This case is an absolute miscarriage of justice.
28 posted on 05/03/2024 8:53:22 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater & Thomas Sowell in 2024)
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To: Coronal

Nope. The alleged falsification of business records (34 counts) occurred from February, 2017, per the indictment document.


29 posted on 05/03/2024 8:53:41 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

When? And how?


30 posted on 05/03/2024 8:55:51 AM PDT by Judge Bean
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To: Sidebar Moderator

What is that and what does it mean?


31 posted on 05/03/2024 8:57:03 AM PDT by Judge Bean
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To: Sidebar Moderator

The statute of limitations on the alleged records falsification has already expired. So they turned an expired misdemeanor case into a felony by alleging that the falsification was in furtherance of another crime — a state election fraud law that doesn’t even apply to this case since Trump was a federal candidate.


32 posted on 05/03/2024 8:57:25 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Judge Bean

It’s an appeal for emergency relief.


33 posted on 05/03/2024 8:59:44 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: thegagline

Exactly. Harvey Weinstein’s conviction was overturned for similar abuses of discretion by prosecutors in that case. They prejudiced the jury by hauling into the courtroom all kinds of stuff having no connection to the case at hand.


34 posted on 05/03/2024 9:03:17 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: 1Old Pro

She’s going to be harder to discredit than Cohen or Pecker. She hasn’t been charged with anything, been offered no deals for her testimony and has no known ax to grind.


35 posted on 05/03/2024 9:26:07 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: Red Badger

It will be interesting to see how many pages of testimony she will be allowed to “correct” after the fact.


36 posted on 05/03/2024 9:46:26 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: reasonisfaith
However, in the Salem witch trials the youngest person was Dorothy Good who was killed at the age of four or five as her birth year is believed to have been either 1687 or 1688 and she was hung on 1692.

Hanging a four year old made sense to the idiots in Salem in the 1600's. Evil judges, stupid people, evil done...

37 posted on 05/03/2024 10:04:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (Takes 6 to 9 months to 'organize' a national protest. This one was organized around October 7th...)
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To: Coronal

She’s regurgitating stuff we already knew. Airing dirty laundry, nothing more. Still no crime. She wasn’t in the room during the supposed Pecker-Trump meeting in August, 2015. Which wouldn’t have been a crime either. This is the most laughable case I’ve ever witnessed.


39 posted on 05/03/2024 10:12:10 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Coronal

Colangelo & co are making all the same mistakes the Weinstein prosecutors made. They’re trying to prejudice the jury by bringing in all this extraneous stuff to create the air of criminality.


40 posted on 05/03/2024 10:16:20 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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