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Live thread [05/03/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here
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Posted on 05/03/2024 8:06:27 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Edited on 05/03/2024 10:26:12 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The case blew up in their faces yesterday. Michael Cohen nailed for perjury by the prosecution’s own witness.

Update, some observations.

President Trump will be appealing the illegal gag order on constitutional grounds. Gag orders are normally applied to the prosecution to avoid tainting the jury pool.

It’s never intended to be used against the defendant. The prosecution by definition doesn’t need protection — the defendant does.

The case may never reach the jury. Another thing. SCOTUS’s pending ruling on immunity (June) may factor into this.

The alleged falsification of business records ALL took place AFTER Trump became president. An evidentiary hearing to sort what may have been executive vs personal actions would be in order. This another reason this trial should not have move forward before all the constitutional challenges were settled.

The statute of limitations on the alleged records falsification has already expired. So they turned an expired misdemeanor case into a felony by alleging that the falsification was in furtherance of another crime — a state election fraud law that doesn’t even apply to this case since Trump was a federal candidate.

Harvey Weinstein’s conviction was overturned for similar abuses of discretion by prosecutors in that case. They prejudiced the jury by hauling into the courtroom all kinds of stuff having no connection to the case at hand.

Hope Hicks.

She’s regurgitating stuff we already knew. Airing dirty laundry, nothing more. Still no crime. She wasn’t in the room during the supposed Pecker-Trump meeting in August, 2015. Which wouldn’t have been a crime either. This is the most laughable case I’ve ever witnessed.

Colangelo & co are making all the same mistakes the Weinstein prosecutors made. They’re trying to prejudice the jury by bringing in all this extraneous stuff to create the air of criminality.


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KEYWORDS: bidenreich; colangelo; electioninterference; fjb; hopehicks; hushmoneytrial; hushtrumptrial; nyc; perjury; political; showtrial; trial; trump; trumppersecution
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1 posted on 05/03/2024 8:06:27 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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President Trump will be appealing the illegal gag order on constitutional grounds.


2 posted on 05/03/2024 8:07:18 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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Gag order will be overturned.


3 posted on 05/03/2024 8:08:55 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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WITCH HUNT


4 posted on 05/03/2024 8:12:13 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the personal implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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Will this happen in a timely manner, during the trial when it matters, or well after and backdated to appear that President Trump had a fair say after all?


5 posted on 05/03/2024 8:14:40 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (Doomed to be Cassandra-like?)
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What day is scheduled for hearing of an actual crime in this criminal proceeding? I don’t want to miss it./s


6 posted on 05/03/2024 8:14:52 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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With the 1st Amendment, how do gag orders exist?


7 posted on 05/03/2024 8:28:46 AM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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At its finest.


8 posted on 05/03/2024 8:28:54 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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With the 1st Amendment, how do gag orders exist?

They don't.

9 posted on 05/03/2024 8:29:39 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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I believe it’ll be filed on an interlocutory basis.


10 posted on 05/03/2024 8:30:19 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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Of course the gag order is likely to be overturned but it wil be AFTER the trial and moot (doesn’t matter) in the court.


11 posted on 05/03/2024 8:30:34 AM PDT by wildbill (The older I get, the less the term 'life in prison" scares me)
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Can Trump file for an immediate stay?

Or would it be better for him to push them to put him in jail first?


12 posted on 05/03/2024 8:32:21 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Gag orders are normally applied to the prosecution to avoid tainting the jury pool. It’s never intended to be used against the defendant. The prosecution by definition doesn’t need protection — the defendant does.


13 posted on 05/03/2024 8:32:53 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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Not an interlocutory appeal.


14 posted on 05/03/2024 8:34:17 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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Hope Hicks is taking the stand.


15 posted on 05/03/2024 8:35:15 AM PDT by Coronal
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Don’t hold your breath 😂
Show trials like this are information war. Legitimate application of law and pursuit of impartial justice aren’t on the menu.


16 posted on 05/03/2024 8:36:54 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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I wonder what the Biden/Lawfare guys running this case plan for jury instructions, which have to cite specific laws that the defendant is either guilty or not guilty of violating. They must have some trick up their sleeve, and the sooner this is outed the better.

Presumably once the State ends its case, the Defense will move for dismissal on the grounds that no felony was even alleged much less proved, and that the prosecution introduced prejudicial material, in clear violation of the NY Supreme Court’s recent dismissal of the Harvey Weinstein convictions for exactly that. If the motions are denied, it should be appealed as far as it takes so that this never reaches the jury.


17 posted on 05/03/2024 8:40:38 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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For the record, I’m not a lawyer, just an amateur observer.


18 posted on 05/03/2024 8:40:43 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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That will slow things down a bit....................


19 posted on 05/03/2024 8:42:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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