Posted on 04/29/2024 9:50:07 AM PDT by Kazan
Volodymyr Zelensky recently released a statement revealing that his regime and the government of Washington D.C. were in continued contact, “working on a bilateral security agreement” that would see “monetary aid” sent to Ukraine for an agreed-upon time of ten years.
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Despite an individual’s personal feelings on the Russia-Ukraine war, the facts of the matter are that Ukraine is not a NATO country—and at this point, the cost-benefit analysis of being a member of the NATO pact is definitely not worth it for the American people—and Zelensky is not a good guy. This isn’t to say that Vladimir Putin is…but between the two? One nation is notoriously corrupt and a known hub of human trafficking, while its leaders push cultural LGBTQ++ perversion, steal our wealth (taking hundreds of millions off the top for themselves), send their own people into the meat grinder of warfare, and ally themselves with leftist Hollywood, Joe Biden, and all the scum of D.C.; the other nation sentences pedophiles to the death penalty, tells homosexuals and alternative-sexuality people to engage in whatever behaviors they like as long as it’s in private and nowhere near children, and naturally, doesn’t want hostile governments anywhere along its borders.
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President Dwight Eisenhower’s Farewell Address made infamous the “military-industrial complex” machine, but why he neglected to call it the congressional-military-industrial complex like he originally intended is beyond me — particularly when you consider the “forever war” reality is the exact situation against which Eisenhower strived to warn.
Peace, or a cessation of fighting, is the best option, but peace means the gravy train comes to an end—no wonder it’s off the table, and the powers that be are concocting ten-year plans for sending our money to a country with no accountability.
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That end Ukraine as a nation.
Russia won't and shouldn't tolerate that after we promised the Russians no eastward expansion of NATO in the early '90s.
NATO and puppet government in Ukraine hostile to Moscow is grave national security risk for the Russians and they prevent that at any cost.
You and your fellow Zeepers keep doubling down on stupid, destructive ideas.
“This will only energize Russia to crush and dismember the entire territory of the Ukraine.”
That’s how Putin is going to “re-think” this war. And contrary to some comments hereon, I do not think it will destroy Russia to do so - not even close.
Here we are two years later and Russia keeps cranking out both while the West can't come closer to matching what it is producing.
The opposite of what you're claiming is actual true -- with $34 trillion debt, we can't afford to continue sink money into wars that have nothing to with our national security and, in fact, endanger this country.
Legally and ethically? None.
There will be consequences if we try.
Nonsense. It won't take Russia ten years or even five to either take all of Ukraine or take everything east of the Dnieper river and render the rest of it inhabitable.
There is NO chance the American people will allow us to get involved, which is the only chance Ukraine would have at a stalemate. That would be worse than Vietnam for us.
“Short of a treaty, I cannot see how this Congress can obligate the next five Congress is in the next 2 to 3 presidents to a policy. At a bare minimum, another Congress could repeal it. “
Repubs have been promising to defund PBS since 1980.
God I hope this doesn’t happen. It’s just another poke in the eye to Trump if he wins the election.
Ukraine = Europe’s Chicago
Money always changing hands the country has been corrupt for years.
Wait until you see the funding agreement for Israel and Gaza when that war is finally done.
Vietnam and the US had a security agreement.
That's an incredible statement of projection. This isn't a war Western globalists and the politicians they payoff without self-destruction.
You're delusional. You and your fellow Zeepers have consistently been wrong for more than two years.
All the broken promises are on our side and the side of other NATO countries, not Russia's.
Regardless, there is NO chance of Russia tolerating Ukraine in NATO. Ukraine will cease existing or what's left of it will be uninhabitable.
So, we broke our promises within a couple of years not to expand NATO. We had Ukraine sign the Minsk accords and then renege on them.
But, the Russia's is the side that can't be trusted?
It's us, NATO and the Western globalist elite that have become the equivalent of the old Soviet Union. And, the vast majority of the world knows it.
And, the rest of us are sick and tired of the consequences of failed proxy and sanction wars that have NOTHING to do with our national security.
You're delusional and Ukraine is going to pay for your lies, arrogance and ethnic hatred.
That sure hell isn't true of those in Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea.
I'm pretty sure that VAST majority of Ukrainians in what is left of the country want the war to end, want peace and would happily agree to a country that remains neutral toward Russia.
Ukraine the best “honey trap” ever played against the Deep State.
The people in Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk voted for Yanukovych, the President driven out of office by an illegal coup we fomented.
Ethnic Russians are the largest ethnic group in those regions and were under NO OBLIGATION to live under a Ukrainian government that come to power illegally that went on to persecute and murder the population there.
You're the one defending illegal coups and human rights abuses by neo-Nazis and Ukrainian nationalists.
The people in Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea had every right to declare their independence and join the Russian Federation. They did AND THERE ISN'T A DAMN THING ANYONE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
The annexed part of Ukraine will remain with Russia as long as anyone reading this is alive.
All we're doing by continuing to fund this war is guaranteeing more Ukrainians die and that Ukraine will lose more territory.
Don't like -- get your ass to Ukraine and fight the eviiil Russians.
You like to discuss and debate with assertions, lacking citations to support. Here is some verifiable info as regards "the most powerful economy in the world."
China - 4.6B tons; United States - 2.2B tons; Russia - 1.7B tons....It is a strategic error to underestimate opponents, as it is to overestimate one's own strengths.Mineral Production by Country 2024
China - 3,112 Mtoe; United States - 2,322 Mtoe; Russia - 1,455 Mtoe....
China – 28.4% Global Manufacturing Output; United States – 16.6% Global Manufacturing Output; Japan – 7.5% Global Manufacturing Output; Germany – 5.8% Global Manufacturing Output....
Top 10 manufacturing countries in 2023
United States - 42% share of international arms exports; Russia - 11% share of international arms exports; France - 11% share of international arms exports; China - 5.8% share of international arms exports; Germany - 5.6% share of international arms exports....
And with that large share adding to European arms producers the complaint that not enough war materiel is being sent to Ukraine in its war with "very minor player" Russia, which to date seems to be producing war materiel at a rate unmatched by the EU.
Market share of the leading exporters of major weapons between 2019 and 2023, by country
That "very minor player in the world economically" figures far larger than your characterization.
When next you make assertions, cite some references beyond simple rhetoric.
This is NOT cheerleading for Russia, but rather a call to not underestimate them, as it seems we have been doing.
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