Ukraine’s Zelensky ‘Personally’ Thanks Mike Johnson for $61 Billion Gift from U.S. Taxpayers

Breitbart ^ | 04/20/2024

[ChicagoConservative27]

Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky said he was “personally” grateful to “Speaker Mike Johnson for the decision that keeps history on the right track” after Johnson shepherded a $61 billion Ukraine aid package through the House Saturday.

The image of scores of Democrats waving Ukraine flags and cheering on the House floor as the bill passed will forever sting the conservatives from whose ranks Johnson rose, only to serve them with the ultimate betrayal.

[FlyingEagle]

Supporting Ukraine with cash is the wrong thing to do.

Supporting Ukraine with peace negotiations is the right thing to do.

The Biden borrowed cash to give to Zelenskyy is the dumb ass thing to do.

Supporting Biden corruption is even worse.

[mabarker1]

IT’S NOT A GIFT you STUPID A$$}{0£€ !!!

IT WAS STOLEN FROM US TAXPAYERS PUTZ BRAIN !!!

[buwaya]

It was Trump, alone and on his own, that raised the stakes in re NATO, demanding that the Euros take it seriously. NATO was moribund in 2017. Everyone made fun of him at the time. He was also the first to provide arms to Ukraine. Was Trump a globalist MIC stooge?

In 2022 it was Duda of Poland who shamed the Euros (some of them kicking and screaming - notably Germany) into supporting Ukraine with arms. Thats certainly how it seemed in Europe.

[buwaya]

We taxpayers (me too, even in Spain, with its weird tax treaty, I still pay US taxes on some income) are taxed for truly enormous fraud, waste and abuse. Vastly exceeding whatever is spent re Ukraine.

Yet nobody seems to get emotional about it.

Calibrating emotionalism to numbers (yes, that is too idealistically rational when we are talking of emotions), given your post you should be lost in a rage, setting yourself on fire about US medical spending.

Its funny about emotion and perspective.

[Reverend Wright]

Vicki not aging so gracefully.

[Songcraft]

"This is not a time for emotionalism."

Talking about "emotionalism", one grouping of some of the strongest human emotions of all includes "fear", "apprehension", "nervousness", "worry", and "anxiety", and those emotions are what is actually motivating those who just keep on saying "BOHICA", and keep taking it up the old-wussy-wazoo, and then they wring their nervous nellie hands, saying, "Oh dear! Oh dear! What if this happens, or what if that happens? We'd better just take it, and stay silent, and do absolutely nothing once again."

It is much better instead to strive to think like our Founding Fathers, who also did their thing filled with many emotions, such as righteous "anger" and "disgust" and "contempt" at the tyranny of the British, and "love" of freedom, and independence, and honesty. Active American forces at any given time in the Revolutionary War, were usually outnumbered by two to three times their number by the numbers of British forces, and I'm sure many of those Americans also felt that emotion of "fear", but instead of standing around wringing their sweaty hands, and saying, "Oh dear! Oh dear! Let's stand down, and do nothing!", they actually said "Damn the torpedoes!" (so to speak), and went out and actually did something positive about it.

[volare737]

You have to give the Republican Party credit. Johnson and many Republicans sure are doing a great job of p*ssing off and demoralizing their base in an election year!

Just like they did just prior to the mid-terms by giving the democrats big wins by passing a couple of big Biden spending bills. They are amazing.

[Reverend Wright]

The Repubs are not to the level where they deserve ZERO seats.

But they are getting close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yKIXtZ5dYA

[buwaya]

Emotionalism is almost always a bad idea.
It doesnt help play the game well.

US strategy in the Revolutionary War was very astute. It played to American strengths, avoided engagements unless there was some perceived advantage (sometimes misjudged, such as at Germantown), and on the whole was designed to keep American military power viable, more so than fighting for its own sake. It can be defined as a “Fabian” strategy (look up Quintus Fabius “Cunctator”), and indeed it was called that at the time.

It was the very opposite of the “banzai charge” strategy of emotion you are implying.

[BEJ]

Yeah, you even sound like a Bill Barr supporter too!

[BEJ]

Absolutely right!

[BEJ]

No you don’t, you have to use your brains. If you did that, you’d see that the American public doesn’t want war.

[BEJ]

Yes, this is not about compromise in this case — it’s about integrity, and nobody seems to have it.

[Songcraft]

That is not what I'm "implying".   I'm not implying anything.   I'm saying if someone punches you in the face, you put your dukes up, and hit him back.   And you do it right now, not two years from now, or six months from now.

I'm saying if you discover that someone supposedly on your side is a traitor, you deal with them right now, not some time in the nebulous, nefarious future, after they do a lot more damage.

You are obviously dealing from the full-blown negative emotionalism of "fear" and "anxiety", concerning what terrible things might happen here, if we take action, and actually do something.   We will never be free of "emotionalism" of one kind or another regarding all these issues until we are here:


      


Regarding that emotion-free time, don't rush it.

[JustaTech]

The spare ammo and SAMS the Ukrainians need, does not exist.

In the US and the West generally, we produce weapons and ammo in peacetime mode (slowly and expensively), while the Russians have been producing in wartime mode (cheap and fast).

That disparity cannot turn around in less than a decade, if we even make the attempt.

[Songcraft]

Very true, and most of them don't seem to care anymore if we all know that.   It is so hard to believe.

[Rennes Templar]

“Supporting Ukraine is the right thing to do.”

Fool me once.

They said the same thing for the Vietnam War. The Dominoe theory. Once Vietnam falls, all of SE Asia will go communist, and eventually the whole eastern hemisphere.

Once Ukraine falls, Putin will annex all of Europe, then invade the US through Alaska.

Fool me twice.

[buwaya]

You still miss my point. Your own heritage argues against your inclinations. George Washington was not driven by fear and anxiety. He was an eminently rational man, and he quickly understood that he was playing a game of chess.

[buwaya]

The US has produced @12,000 rounds of Patriot missiles.
And for that matter its got @500 lquncher units in reserve, plus radars and etc in proportion.

There a millions of rounds of 155mm DPICM in the disposition queue. Among lots of other things, like MLRS DPICM.

[buwaya]

Vietnam was held until the Communist alliance fell apart with the Sino-Soviet split.

Thats why Vietnam and Cambodia almost immediately started fighting each other, not the Thais.