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Russia is not an Aggressor, and Ukraine is not a Victim
American Thinker ^ | March 31, 2024 | Alexander G. Tarkovsky

Posted on 03/31/2024 6:13:30 PM PDT by Veto!

It is widely accepted that the Ukrainian crisis erupted into a military conflict on February 24, 2022, with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Contrary to conventional wisdom, the seeds of the hostilities were planted about thirty years earlier by President Clinton and, later, by George W. Bush, both of whom recklessly pushed for NATO’s eastward expansion.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: alexandergmarkovsky; alexandergtarkovsky; blamethevictim; bloggers; bush; careercriminal; chaddeusmaximus; clinton; fakenews; gangsters; gidgetmaximus; homeinvaders; killkillkillforpeace; maplesyrup; maximusmaximus; nato; putinsblunder; russiaisanaggressor; russianpropaganda; russianshill; tankiesgalore; ukraine
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Interesting info from the always relevant American Thinker.
1 posted on 03/31/2024 6:13:30 PM PDT by Veto!
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To: Veto!; Honorary Serb

TPTB from Carter onward have warred relentlessly against Orthodox Christians.


2 posted on 03/31/2024 6:21:34 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Veto!

https://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/history-of-war-in-ukraine


3 posted on 03/31/2024 6:27:52 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: Veto!

REEeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 03/31/2024 6:29:30 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Veto!

This neocon, globalist claptrap.


5 posted on 03/31/2024 6:30:02 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Veto!

So Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Finland, and Norway already border Russia. Are they fair game, too?


6 posted on 03/31/2024 6:30:31 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Veto!

This makes a great deal of sense.
Deep state always pushes for war.


7 posted on 03/31/2024 6:33:34 PM PDT by Chengdu54
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To: Veto!

Keep chucking that Russian horse spit!


8 posted on 03/31/2024 6:33:59 PM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: Veto!

The bear is back.

9 posted on 03/31/2024 6:37:34 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Veto!

IOW, the home invaders are the real victims here, not the homeowners!

Support the criminal invaders!

(Russia, the career-criminal of countries)


10 posted on 03/31/2024 6:37:48 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: kenmcg
Keep chucking that Russian horse spit!

Perhaps you could clarify the particular facts and details that the article got wrong or left out?

11 posted on 03/31/2024 6:39:31 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: lightman
TPTB from Carter onward have warred relentlessly against Orthodox Christians.

Everything makes sense if you just assume the State Department came under the control of Satan a few decades ago.

12 posted on 03/31/2024 6:44:05 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: Veto!

Careful, Zelensky might become so despondent he won’t remember his bank account password.


13 posted on 03/31/2024 6:44:54 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: AndyTheBear
Perhaps you could clarify the particular facts and details that the article got wrong or left out?

Let's start with the title: "Russia is not an Aggressor"

Perhaps black is also white and up is also down. George Orwell would be so proud.

14 posted on 03/31/2024 6:47:30 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: lightman

...white Christians killing white Christians, YEA!


15 posted on 03/31/2024 6:53:46 PM PDT by JJBookman (Democrats = Party of mass murder)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Well it certainly seems to me that Russia was an “aggressor” in the sense that they attacked Ukraine. Also Ukraine was an “aggressor” in the sense that they launched counter offenses.

However I think the headline was using the term “aggressor” in a more narrow sense. I am not convinced they are right though. I think Putin is pretty much a tyrant and quite aggressive. However I also realize that the situation is more complicated than simply saying that Russia attacked out of no where for no reason. The conflict is long and complicated with many details that muddy the water.

So was hoping that you could shed light on details the article got wrong since you feel so strongly about it.


16 posted on 03/31/2024 6:56:55 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: Engraved-on-His-hands

Grow up. A pox on both their houses.
If you have a counter argument then lay it out - and no BS.


17 posted on 03/31/2024 7:02:00 PM PDT by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: AndyTheBear
Thanks for your response. It was kenmcg that you asked about the details in the article. I was more concerned with the general concepts including the title. Hence, my statement and question in post #6: So Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Finland, and Norway already border Russia. Are they fair game, too?

These are already NATO countries. If Ukraine is fair game, are these other countries fair game, also?

18 posted on 03/31/2024 7:02:21 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: Veto!

IOW, bad is good, and good is bad.

Russia was always within its rights to invade Ukraine. Ukraine belonged to Russia, therefore it still belongs to Russia.

Russia was not an aggressor nation during the cold war, and was within its rights to conquer and rule the lands which it deemed appropriate to rule.

We have all been wrong about Russia all this time, and perhaps we are being wrong about China being an aggressor nation too. Iran is good for the world, therefore, let it take over the middle-east. N. Korea was and is the good guy in the Korean peninsula, therefore. S. Korea has no right to exist.

The world is upside-down, and inside-out, so, we have to surrender to those that were wronged in the past.


19 posted on 03/31/2024 7:03:54 PM PDT by adorno (CCH)
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To: Veto!

Neither of these two countries are victims of anything other than an incredible ignorance and a capacity for violence Americans will never be able to understand.

Russia and Ukraine are two scorpions in a bottle.

This is another go round in an ancient Eastern European blood feud that has nothing to do with us.

This war in not worth a drop of our blood or treasure.


20 posted on 03/31/2024 7:07:17 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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