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Big-Ticket, Expensive, Heavily Armored NATO Tanks Mostly Overweight Duds in the Russo-Ukrainian War
The Kyiv Post ^ | March 19, 2024 | Stefan Korshak

Posted on 03/19/2024 7:14:27 PM PDT by Trump20162020

By a long shot, the enduring image of a NATO-standard modern main battle tank in the Russo-Ukraine War is a video of a stopped vehicle getting hammered by cheap FPV drones, before it gets set on fire and burns down to a six-million-dollar hulk.

Combat video posted by the 79th Air Assault Brigade on Tuesday, reportedly from the eastern Avdiivka sector, was typical, showing a stationary US-made M1A2 Abrams tank hit with a detonation in the back of the turret, probably by a Russian FPV drone.

Three crew hurl themselves from the main battle tank (MBT) as ammunition stored in a bin on the back of Abrams’ turret catches on fire. The vehicle appears to have taken minor damage. Shells inside the ammo bin start cooking off and the blaze spreads to the tank’s hull. Thirty seconds later the American fighting vehicle is burning fiercely and appears well on its way to becoming a total-write off. The fate of the fourth crewman isn’t clear.

(Excerpt) Read more at kyivpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: gamechanger; hunkamaximus; killkillkillforpeace; nato; tank; tanks; theysaid; ukraine
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1 posted on 03/19/2024 7:14:28 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Trump20162020

Yesterday, I watched an 11 minute compilation of Russian armor beaten to smithereens by Ukie drones.

War breaks things.

Interested to learn why ammo was stored on the exterior of a tank.


2 posted on 03/19/2024 7:19:02 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: Trump20162020

The Marines are getting rid of tanks. You have to fight this war with infantry and drones.


3 posted on 03/19/2024 7:19:31 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Trump20162020
Tank Warfare is ok by me when generals ride in tanks. Some kid in a communication trailer 5000 miles away incinerates you with a laptop and a joy stick. Nope. 70 Ton Steel and alloy coffins filled with high explosive ordinance.

Today is not your daddy's battlefield.

4 posted on 03/19/2024 7:20:29 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Why would you want to store high explosives inside your tank? I saw that video too.


5 posted on 03/19/2024 7:22:52 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Be careful what you say. Your refrigerator may be listening & reporting you.)
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To: Trump20162020

Challenger playing in the mud.

https://youtu.be/zQ8CrhhxYh0?si=lgqeBGykAsYzxkdE


6 posted on 03/19/2024 7:24:07 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Trump20162020

I sure wouldn’t want my son sitting in any of those tanks.


7 posted on 03/19/2024 7:24:58 PM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Uncle Miltie

Russian, British, German, Abrams tanks have ALL been getting plastered by drones. It appears that tanks, like aircraft carriers, are quickly becoming obsolete.


8 posted on 03/19/2024 7:27:38 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Explosive Reactive Armor

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_armour


9 posted on 03/19/2024 7:29:34 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Uncle Miltie

It may be that tanks have not worked well for either side.


10 posted on 03/19/2024 7:29:49 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Trump20162020

The Russians are posting drone footage of like 3 or 4 M1s being popped.

While not totally accurate in the sense that we would not employ them the same way, this tank as all Western MBTs is obsolete and has been for awhile.

Cancelling FCS was a horrible mistake.


11 posted on 03/19/2024 7:33:34 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Williams

I agree.

The tech to build a missile, it’s penetration capabilities, thermals, dive/top attack capabilities, fire and forget, small backblast and signiture...

The evolution in armor defeating tech is easier and cheaper than to build a vehicle to protect you from these weapons.

We still need the capabilities of the MBT, but what that looks like will be different.


12 posted on 03/19/2024 7:38:23 PM PDT by Red6
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To: hardspunned

The ammo for an Abrams is stored in the rear of the turret, the bin, with a thick blast door between it and the crew. The rear of the turret has blowout panels designed to vent the blast to the outside and not inside the turret. That is probably what the big flare is. On T-72s it is onboard stored rounds in the hull that blows the turret off.
Also I do not think the NATO tanks in Ukraine are using the same secret squirrel armor th hat is installed on the country’s army t.anks


13 posted on 03/19/2024 7:38:52 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (Annie Savoy : The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness. )
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To: hardspunned

Aircraft carriers are not obsolete, they are still very useful ... one reason why the US maintains military dominance with capabilities no other country has

And unlike tanks, they can be surrounded by a fleet of other ships to be a “first line” of defense


14 posted on 03/19/2024 7:40:48 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: Red6

“Cancelling FCS was a horrible mistake”.

What is/was FCS?


15 posted on 03/19/2024 7:46:59 PM PDT by dodger
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To: Trump20162020

It’s NOT NATO’s fault that these tanks had to fight in sub-optimal conditions, it’s PUTIN’S FAULT - so blame him, don’t blame our woke DOD.


16 posted on 03/19/2024 7:51:51 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: hardspunned

You say that now...but once the drones are countered with a counter measure that will disrupt their communication the heavies will run roughshod....


17 posted on 03/19/2024 7:58:27 PM PDT by mythenjoseph (Islam has NO place in a Christian society.)
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To: dodger; Red6

Future Combat Systems program


18 posted on 03/19/2024 8:10:49 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: mythenjoseph; hardspunned

fiber optics wire-guided.


19 posted on 03/19/2024 8:11:30 PM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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To: Red6
Cancelling FCS was a horrible mistake.

FCS was a horrible mistake.

20 posted on 03/19/2024 8:13:44 PM PDT by IndispensableDestiny
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