Posted on 02/19/2024 3:08:29 PM PST by CFW
A lawyer representing former President Donald Trump said that his team will challenge a New York judge’s decision last week, targeting the judge’s definition of what fraud is.
Last Friday, Judge Arthur Engoron ruled that the former president is liable for a $355 million fine and cannot operate his Trump Organization in New York state for three years.
“The case raises serious legal and constitutional questions regarding ‘fraud’ claims/findings without any actual fraud,” Chris Kise, the former lawyer in the case, told Newsweek on Monday. Regarding the appeal of the cause, the lawyer said that it “will depend on many factors so it’s hard to say at the moment, but in any event, it will fall within the 30-day clock” under the court’s rules.
In 2022, New York Attorney General Letitia James, a Democrat, filed a lawsuit against the former president, his two sons Eric and Donald Jr, the Trump Organization, and several other individuals. Weeks before the trial started, Judge Engoron ruled that President Trump inflated his assets to get better loans.
Other than the judgment against President Trump, the judge wrote that sons Donald Jr. and Eric have to pay $4 million each and are also banned from doing business in New York state for two years. Two executives at the company, Allen Weisselberg and Jeff McConney, were barred from serving as a company officer for three years.
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Trump Will Challenge Judge Engoron’s Definition of Fraud, Lawyer Says
maybe we can finally find out what the definition of is isn’t. “no one is above the law” but engomoron is showing just how low below the law government can go.
If true, then exactly who was harmed here? The banks? Nope, they were paid back with interest. How about the State? Nope, they were not out any money at all.
But now Engoron the Moron, pervert that he is, is trying to steal 355 Million.
Trump Don’t Try to Stick FL Residents with these Legal Fees Either .
Gee, do you think that maybe the Judge or AG rounded up their earnings and net worth on their mortgage application?
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“It is unusual, and that’s one of the issues here,” said white collar defense attorney Paul DerOhannesian. We haven’t really seen this type of proceeding before against a very large New York business.”
Syracuse University law professor Gregory Germain told Reuters that the “attorney general’s job is to protect people who can’t protect themselves,” adding that “we’re dealing with very sophisticated lenders who are fully capable of protecting themselves and haven’t asked the attorney general for help.”
“I think the judges are going to have to look carefully at what the powers of the attorney general are here,” Mr. Germain said. “Are they so broad that any lie can put you out of business, even if nobody believed it?”
There have been warnings that businesses may not want to operate out of New York state, leading to a downturn in the state’s economy. That prompted Gov. Kathy Hochul to try and reassure businesses that they have “nothing to worry about” after the ruling.
Trump Will Challenge Judge Engoron’s Definition of Fraud, Lawyer Says
I well remember how Obama used his well connected Chicago friends to get him a house with easy financing. That’s OK but Trump can’t finagle a good deal for himself?
There are probably at least a dozen illegalities committed against trump in this sham indictment and trial.
Trump needs to bring everyone of them up on appeal. Not just pick one. Why would anyone just pick one. That is stupid.
I think it was on Watter’s World that they revealed that
there’s a vacant lot near Mara Lago that is going for
$200 million, and other properties with much less
infrastructure going for $400-$500 million.
That $28 million evaluation reveals a lot about the judge.
Honestly, you’re disgusting.
If true, then exactly who was harmed here? The banks? Nope, they were paid back with interest. How about the State? Nope, they were not out any money at all.
But now Engoron the Moron, pervert that he is, is trying to steal 355 Million.>>. The state of New york is the victim. States are people too. If affects tourism and the the “i love new york” ads. Can’t have fraudsters running around.
Aside from all the other theater, technically this case is a demonstration of the state blatantly violating the 5th Amendment.
The thought that a judge can rule on any complex fraud case via summary judgment is total absurdity.
Fraud cases in general are extremely difficult and complex cases to try, even if there is obvious criminal conduct because you have to prove an individuals willful intent to commit fraud.
It's very common to get criminal conviction but not prove the fraud component
In this case the Judge has defied all legal precedents by convicting on fraud when there was no criminal or illegal conduct or even the slightest hint of any attempts to commit fraud by anyone in the Trump organization.
In the specific case of Trump, it's simply not possible to dispose of the case via summary judgment under any circumstances
The thought that a judge can rule on any complex fraud case via summary judgment is total absurdity.
Fraud cases in general are extremely difficult and complex cases to try, even if there is obvious criminal conduct because you have to prove an individuals willful intent to commit fraud.
It's very common to get criminal conviction but not prove the fraud component
In this case the Judge has defied all legal precedents by convicting on fraud when there was no criminal or illegal conduct or even the slightest hint of any attempts to commit fraud by anyone in the Trump organization.
In the specific case of Trump, it's simply not possible to dispose of the case via summary judgment under any circumstances
Judges are going to have to look carefully at what the powers of the attorney general are here.
Are they so broad that any lie can put you out of business, even if nobody believed it?
Syracuse University law professor Gregory Germain said that the “attorney general’s job is to protect people who can’t protect themselves. Here we’re dealing with very sophisticated lenders who are fully capable of protecting themselves.”
“They haven’t asked the attorney general for help.”
Honestly, you’re disgusting.
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He is just one of the small handful of paid trolls here. They don’t even deny it anymore.
I promise, every day all over this country, banks and second loan mortgage companies are giving 2nd mortgage loans based on 120% of the first mortgage appraisal which is overvalued in order to make the loan.
There was no indictment in this case; it is a civil proceeding.
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