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Hamas Leader Abroad Khaled Mashal: 'We Reject The Two-State Solution; October 7 Proved That Liberating Palestine From The River To The Sea Is Realistic And Has Already Begun'
MEMRI TV ^ | 1/18/24 | Amar Taqi's Podcast

Posted on 01/22/2024 7:02:53 PM PST by Uncle Miltie

In a three-part interview with Kuwaiti podcaster Amar Taki, posted during the second week of January 2024, Khaled Mashal, the leader of Hamas abroad, rejected the two-state solution. He said that there is a consensus among Palestinians that they will not give up their rights to Palestine from the Mediterranean River to the Mediterranean Sea. Mashal said that October 7 has renewed this dream and hope and shown that it is a realistic idea, not merely a dream. He stated that taking control of the Gaza Strip following the 2006 elections was necessary in order to build up the resistance, its weapons production, and tunnels, without any hindrance from the Palestinian Authority.

Khaled Mashal: "Even some of our supporters were worried that ruling [Gaza] would change us. They did not realize that coming to power was a necessity, in order to serve the people and to protect the resistance. It provided a political and administrative cover in all the [Palestinian] institutions, and gave the resistance a free hand to operate. We have used our rule [of Gaza] to build up the resistance with all its means – the weapons, the weapons production, the planning, the training, and the tunnels – while our backs were safe. In other words, there was no security coordination, no Palestinian Authority to persecute us…"

Interviewer: "No one to stab you in the back…"

Mashal: "Hamas did not set its eyes on ruling [Gaza]. Hamas was looking for a ruling authority that would [serve] the resistance. Authority under occupation is a mistake. That was the first mistake of the Oslo accords. But since this authority has become, since 1994, fait accompli, due to the Oslo Accords, Hamas's philosophy when it entered the 2006 elections, was [that] we wanted to subordinate this authority, which was already a fact on the ground, to the service of the people and of the resistance, and this is what happened. As soon as we won the 2006 elections, we captured the Israeli soldier [Gilad] Shalit, and the prisoner swap deal was in 2011. This was practical evidence that Hamas had subordinated its rule [of Gaza] to the service of the resistance, rather than giving up the resistance for the sake of this authority.

"People are saying now that the October 7 war has opened a new horizon for a vision of a political settlement. Here, they pull out their old 'merchandise' of the two-state solution. I would like to say two things about the two-state solution. First, we have nothing to do with the two-state solution. We reject this notion, because it means you would get a promise for a [Palestinian] state, yet you are required to recognize the legitimacy of the other state, which is the Zionist entity. This is unacceptable. We demand to be liberated, to get rid of the occupation, and to have our independence, and our state. [Israel] is my enemy. It is not my concern."

Interviewer: "What 'state' are you talking about?"

Mashal: "A Palestinian state."  

Interviewer: "What Palestinian state?"

Mashal: "Obviously, the position of Hamas, and the position of the vast majority of the Palestinian people, especially following October 7, I believe that the dream and the hope for Palestine from the River to the Sea, and from the north to the south, has been renewed. This has also become a slogan chanted in the U.S., and in western capital cities, by the American and Western public.

"'Palestine from the River to the Sea'  - that's the slogan of American students, and the [students] in European capital cities. Our Palestinian enterprise, on which there is almost a Palestinian national consensus…Even if some people must voice a different opinion, due to political constraints…

"The Palestinian consensus - or almost a consensus – is that we will not give up on our right to Palestine in its entirety, from the [Jordan] River to the [Mediterranean] Sea, and from Rosh HaNikra to Eilat or the Gulf of Aqaba.

"In order to establish a common ground, and a joint Palestinian plan with the other Palestinian with the other Palestinian forces, and in line with the other Arab position. Hamas agreed to a completely independent [Palestinian] state, with the 1967 borders, with Jerusalem as its capital, with the right of Return included – without recognizing the legitimacy of the Zionist entity.

"This position was meant to facilitate Palestinian and Arab agreement at this stage, but without relinquishing any of our rights or any part of our land, and without recognizing Israel. Our vision remains unchanged.

"I believe that October 7 has enhanced this conviction, has narrowed the disagreements, and has turned the idea of liberating Palestine from the River to the Sea into a realistic idea that has already begun. It is not something [merely] to be expected or hoped for. It is part of the plan, part of the agenda, and we are standing on its threshold, Allah willing."


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Gaza; Hamas; Iran; Iraq; Israel; Lebanon; Politics/Elections; Syria; War on Terror; Yemen
KEYWORDS: 2statesolution; amartaki; gaza; hamas; iran; iraq; israel; khaledmashal; kuwait; lebanon; palestinkians; syria; war; waronterror; whatshisfrnick; yemen
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To: Dogbert41

Netanyahu is going to cost you one hat.


81 posted on 01/23/2024 3:37:21 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: 5th MEB

That’s the way Godless, baby murdering, warmongering Nazis wage war. You’re lucky Putin isn’t the maniac you are or he would have nuked us after our unprovoked attack on Russia.


82 posted on 01/23/2024 3:41:28 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Bullish

Glad to see your input of “total nonsense”. Thanks for the brevity.


83 posted on 01/23/2024 3:43:19 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: lightman

They want a one state solution, step back and let it play out. They will get a solution.


84 posted on 01/23/2024 3:47:18 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: lightman

Another mole has popped up.

Whack it!


85 posted on 01/23/2024 5:32:06 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: hardspunned
... where the Gazans weren’t living in this hellish urban ghetto...

Yeah!

I remember the line of Israeli tanks forcing the peaceful Palestinians to march into that hellhole.

86 posted on 01/23/2024 5:37:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lightman
Why don't the Gazans simply emigrate to other Muslim nations?

I'm sure the Religion of Peace would be very welcoming to these poor, oppressed folks.

87 posted on 01/23/2024 5:41:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Hamas, there is no new solution for Palestinians. You have Jordan and the Jewish people have Israel and you may as well get used to it.

You are criminals and will be treated as such by all countries. Period.


88 posted on 01/23/2024 5:43:48 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: hardspunned

“Complete annihilation of Hamas cannot be accomplished short of complete annihilation of Gazans.”

I’m okay with that.

“That step will be the catalyst for complete annihilation of Israel and millions more.”

How exactly would that happen?

L


89 posted on 01/23/2024 5:44:52 AM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. )
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To: EinNYC

One thing can be counted on: Jew-haters have no idea what they spout off about. They just hate Jews and let their imagination run wild with why.

Very true; and I’ve noticed an increasing amount of that ilk appearing recently on FR.
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Antisemitism has no rationale; it is inspired by satan. Period.


90 posted on 01/23/2024 5:48:07 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk; All

In Arab culture to say something is to make it real. Read

https://www.amazon.com/Arab-Mind-Raphael-Patai/dp/0967201551/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2NOV5Q1E1XR2X&keywords=The+Arab+mind&qid=1706017833&sprefix=the+arab+mind%2Caps%2C163&sr=8-1


91 posted on 01/23/2024 5:51:21 AM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: hardspunned

So you’re saying all Israel is doing is killing innocent civilians.


92 posted on 01/23/2024 6:06:42 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: MrRelevant

Civilian palestinians elected ham ass.

Civilian palestinians vastly approve of 10/7 butchery.

Civilian palestinians hide weapons in literally half the houses of Gaza.

Civilian palestinians have richly earned the unavoidable collateral damage.


93 posted on 01/23/2024 6:25:59 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: hardspunned
Those poor babies!


94 posted on 01/23/2024 6:30:32 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: hardspunned

After ham ass rapes women, grandmothers and babies so hard they break their pelvises, roasts babies in ovens, and murders and captures civilians AS POLICY, you’re so terribly concerned about the exceedingly normal collateral damage on palestinian civilians by the Israelis who are desperately (see leaflets, see robocalls before strikes) trying to avoid it.

Poor dear. You must have the vapors.

OBTW- ham ass policy of rape as a weapon is not reserved for just women and babies, ham ass rapes the men too:

“Hamas terrorists were also dressing female hostages as dolls in order to abuse them in sadistic ways. And she said that male hostages were also being sexually abused and raped.”

The culture you defend. Sick.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4212236/posts


95 posted on 01/23/2024 6:45:25 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Objective: Permanently break the will of the population to ever wage war again.)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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96 posted on 01/23/2024 7:29:12 AM PST by SJackson (In a war of ideas it is people who get killed, Stanislaw Jerzy Lec)
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To: Uncle Miltie

I’m defending no one other than innocent women and children. You are the defending the indiscriminate slaughter of children. How many tens of thousand of children do you fantasize about murdering? Is that a wrench in your pocket or are you just getting off on the thought of slaughtering children? Hitler had nothing on your bloodlust for innocent babies. What a big brave warmongering DC stooge you are. Brave enough to slaughter innocent babies as long you don’t have to fight anyone more threatening to you than toddlers.


97 posted on 01/23/2024 7:32:38 AM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Uncle Miltie

He will fight to the last drop of Palestinian blood…except his own, of course.


98 posted on 01/23/2024 8:57:53 AM PST by Redleg Duke (“Who is John Galt?”)
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To: hardspunned
I’m defending no one other than innocent women and children.

I would guess that all three of them would have left the area by now.

99 posted on 01/23/2024 10:51:47 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NWFree
Well that makes it easy. Bomb them

Bombing has never won a war. And calling what victory is going to require "easy" is, well, I really don't know what to say.

Once all the nonsense about "peace process", "UN resolutions", the "international community" dissipates you will see a war of extermination with an unknown outcome.

This war has been going on for 75 years, the only way it will end is with victory for one side or the other, a feature of wars since the beginning of time.

100 posted on 01/23/2024 10:58:05 AM PST by Jim Noble (Assez des mensonges et des phrases)
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