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$5 million loss for Asheville as flawed electric buses sit idle
WLOS - News 13 ^ | January 18th 2024 | Kimberly King

Posted on 01/21/2024 10:18:27 AM PST by george76

ASHEVILLE, N.C. — The city of Asheville's purchase of five electric buses in 2018 has turned into a multi-million-dollar loss. The buses have been broken or unable to run because of software and/or mechanical issues, making them an expensive and disappointing purchase, according to city maintenance and transportation staff.

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Currently, three of the five buses are idled, with one that has had a broken double door since July.

“We haven’t been able to get new doors,” Asheville's interim transportation director Jessica Morriss said. “There's no third party that makes a door. We'd have to get custom-made doors.”

Each of the buses cost the city $616,796-plus. Morriss said additional costs included more than $200,000 for the infrastructure for each charger, $118,000 annually for the contract to lease batteries for the buses and $45,481 for annual electric charges.

“I think if you added that altogether, I think, probably $900,000 to $1 million is what each one cost. And, since then, we've had to invest additional money into maintaining them and fixing them," Morriss said.

Morriss said maintenance costs have been an additional $251,000, which includes replacing the traction drive controls, or electric motors, for all of the buses.

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Maintenance director John McDaniel said several of the buses also had to have their power inverters replaced at $14,000 each.

“The last couple of years have been particularly difficult,” Morriss said. “We don’t see an end in sight. Proterra, the manufacturer, has since filed for bankruptcy.”

She said it’s impossible to get parts for the idled buses.

“Since June 2023, we have had numerous issues with vehicles out of service for weeks and months," Morriss said.

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Of the two buses that are running, the other big issue is the limited distance they can go, which in winter is about 78 miles. McDaniel said that’s about three trips to the airport. Then, the bus has to come back and charge at the garage on West Haywood Street for hours, he said.

Another issue is the buses get cold overnight and it eats into a large part of the charge to heat them before they leave the garage.

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Morris said the downed electric buses have also put a strain on the city's operating fleet of 32 buses. She said those buses -- a combination of biodiesel and hybrids -- are being run more because the electric buses have been down so often.

“There's some lessons here for sure. We're pressing pause on investing in any electric technology until we can assure the products we get are going to be able to work," Morris said.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: asheville; automotive; bankruptcy; buses; electric; electricbuses; electricvehicle; electricvehicles; ev; evs; fraud; junk; northcarolina; proterra; scammed
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To: KC_Conspirator

Another beautiful city in America being absolutely RUINED by stupid, ignorant liberals.


61 posted on 01/21/2024 1:45:25 PM PST by nutmeg (FJB)
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To: george76

“Atlas Shrugged” —-read it.


62 posted on 01/21/2024 1:56:37 PM PST by Walrus (I do not consent)
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To: george76

“Atlas Shrugged” —-read it.


63 posted on 01/21/2024 1:56:50 PM PST by Walrus (I do not consent)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well. That’s where they got it. A philosophy that allows them to be the most be immune from any consequences. Pretty slick.


64 posted on 01/21/2024 2:17:39 PM PST by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: george76

But the city council members all feel good about themselves.

Mission accomplished.


65 posted on 01/21/2024 2:47:57 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: Charles Martel

Seems like a competent machine shop could come up with something.

Any biker knows that Allen Millyard could machine any part they need. The man is a mechanical genius. Look him up on youtube. Absolutely fascinating.


66 posted on 01/21/2024 2:54:59 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: george76

Have they thought of planting them in the ground with one sticking up beside the Interstate and letting people stop and paint graffiti on them like the “Cadillac Ranch” outside Amarillo TX?

https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2220


67 posted on 01/21/2024 3:03:08 PM PST by Clay Moore (My pistol identifies as a cordless hole punch. )
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To: george76

They will make up for it in volume.

Asheville has attracted every deviant marxist from all over the country. And none of them will EVER ride the bus. I would laugh but they will most certainly get federal tax dollars to keep the scam alive.


68 posted on 01/21/2024 3:09:24 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
I've seen some of Millyard's work, like the five-cylinder version of the Kawasaki H2. Amazing stuff.

As for these buses, I believe the coachwork is pretty standard - the bankrupt EV company only made batteries and powertrain conversions. Should be an off-the-shelf repair parts type fix. Maybe the repair budget got nuked when they paid for those useless EVs.

69 posted on 01/21/2024 3:30:00 PM PST by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: citizen

Tesla is just another government subsidized scam.

EV is an illusion,a damgerous one.

Until the miracle battery which safely stores as much useful energy as the same weight of liquid hydrocarbons EV is a niche item.


70 posted on 01/21/2024 3:33:41 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isnt free)
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To: Charles Martel

I think the city council is just too damn stupid to reason out how to deal with this.

Seriously, these lib morons really can’t logically reason from A to B. Only how to spend OPM.


71 posted on 01/21/2024 3:43:37 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: Clay Moore

Did you know (you have to hunt for it) that there is a VW Beetle ranch out that way also? Next door to the semi collapsed ruins of a restaurant. I can’t recall more.


72 posted on 01/21/2024 3:46:33 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: citizen; MinorityRepublican

“Does Tesla and/or Mercedes manufacture EV buses for city transportation?”

Tesla doesn’t. Mercedes now makes one but I don’t know that they did in 2018 when Asheville bought the Proterra vehicles.

Proterra was an American startup that intended to specifically be a bus maker. They had a CEO who had held a senior position at Tesla.

Proterra used a composite material frame and that appears to have been the major point of failure of their design.


73 posted on 01/21/2024 4:01:08 PM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: cymbeline

Yeah, it did.


74 posted on 01/21/2024 7:52:16 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: RWGinger

“Did you read the article??”

Yes, but obviously too fast. So much writing out there.

We need AI to take a bloated article and give us the text that actually addresses its subject (its headline).


75 posted on 01/22/2024 6:45:01 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: cymbeline

Totally understand 😁


76 posted on 01/22/2024 7:20:54 AM PST by RWGinger (FJB)
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To: george76

Too bad you can’t dock the people who voted for these stupid things So taxpayers could get a refund.


77 posted on 01/22/2024 7:22:18 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Jeff Chandler
Maybe they should replace them with trains.

Or, just replace the idiots that vote for this stuff. And send them an invoice.

78 posted on 01/22/2024 7:23:19 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
replace the idiots that vote for this stuff

Maybe they should replace them with trans.

79 posted on 01/22/2024 7:24:53 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: george76

The peddlers saw gullible target in Asheville for electric buses and....
“She said those buses — a combination of biodiesel and hybrids”


80 posted on 01/22/2024 1:16:42 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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