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A flaming liberal wants to adhere to the 14th Amendment. In some brain damaged way to keep Trump from running since he is guilty of insurrection.
1 posted on 01/18/2024 10:10:04 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

Except for the “due process” part apparently.

See Colorado and Maine, where punishment was meted out just on a whim, without charge, trial or conviction, that is, process.

Just some people deciding and that was that.


2 posted on 01/18/2024 10:11:47 AM PST by cotton1706
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If Trump is convicted, then we can discuss the 14th. As it stands he has not even been charged with insurrection. Therefore they can pound sand.


3 posted on 01/18/2024 10:13:11 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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This idea of picking and choosing which part of the Constitution we’d like to apply — “constitution à la carte” — is extremely dangerous. If we are going to ignore part of the 14th Amendment because Donald Trump is popular, why stop there?

Then why ignore Section 5 of the 14th amendment?

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
-PJ
4 posted on 01/18/2024 10:13:42 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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“There’s a strange idea floating in the political ether.”

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...and that strange idea comes from Chris Truax.


6 posted on 01/18/2024 10:17:47 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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The Hill may as well be Media Matters.


7 posted on 01/18/2024 10:18:10 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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This is gibberish cloaked with obfuscation about a possible ‘third term’ which is clearly defined and limited to two terms elected up to a 10 years maximum. The only recent possible occurrence of this could have been LBJ, who took over from assassinated JFK and could have run for election/reelection but he bowed out of a second term cuz Viet Nam.

Trump is due a second term and there has been no conviction of insurrection that would fall within the meaning of insurrection He is eligible, period. This idiot wants/urges otherwise. Screw him.


8 posted on 01/18/2024 10:20:37 AM PST by Gaffer
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TDA at its finest.


9 posted on 01/18/2024 10:22:42 AM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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Again, The Hill may as well be Media Matters!

Here’s the Left Loon author in 2019:

Republican: I’m telling Democrats how to beat Trump in 2020. It’s Job One so get over it.
Enough with the progressive wish lists, just focus on winning. The next president is everyone’s business, and we can’t afford to screw it up. Again.
Chris Truax Opinion columnist
July 2019

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/07/12/beat-trump-with-mainstream-ideas-not-far-left-fantasies-column/1703543001/


11 posted on 01/18/2024 10:27:58 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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Mr Truax is is an appellate lawyer, and I am not. But may I point something out to him? When the 14th Amendment was proposed and ratified, there was no doubt in anyone’s mind that from 1861–1865 a violent insurrection had, in fact, occurred resulting in 100s of thousands of deaths.

It must amaze Mr. Truax, appellate lawyer, that there 10s of millions of Americans who do not believe that the events during the late hours of January 6, 2021, constituted an ‘insurrection’ at all therefore rendering the 14th Amendment clause in question moot.

So who gets to decide? MSNBC? CNN? The Maine Sec’y of State? Or perhaps the fine folks at Guardrails of Democracy Project?


12 posted on 01/18/2024 10:32:09 AM PST by hanamizu ( )
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That’s begging the question, which is whether the 14th Amendment is relevant at all here.


13 posted on 01/18/2024 10:33:38 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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If CHRIS TRUAX wants to respect the US Constitution, then he should read it.


14 posted on 01/18/2024 10:34:44 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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Well, IIRC, joementia has already informed us those pesky amendments are NOT absolute so............


16 posted on 01/18/2024 10:49:41 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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Don’t tell me what I “must” do. I decide what I will and won’t do, like read this tripe.


17 posted on 01/18/2024 10:53:44 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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Hey Chrissie. If you respect the Constitution, you must respect enforcement of the FIRST AND SECOND AMENDMENTS TOO. It ain’t happening in your Amerika, sonny.


18 posted on 01/18/2024 10:54:01 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Democrats never backstab each other the way the sorry Republicans do. There is no GOP.)
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How about the original 10, especially the 1st,the 2nd and the 10th?

I’m sure this imbecile fully respects them.


19 posted on 01/18/2024 11:00:30 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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Section 1 of the 14th amendment is the due process clause and prohibits states from denying citizens their rights without due process.

President Trump was charged with, and ACQUITED of the charge of Insurrection during his second impeachment. Just because a judge says that a person committed a crime is not due process and it does not make them guilty. Further, the 5th amendment’s double jeopardy clause prohibits Trump for being prosecuted twice for the same charge.

You must respect the whole and entire constitution.


20 posted on 01/18/2024 11:05:13 AM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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Could you imagine republicans messing with the ballots? Voter disenfranchisement, Summer of Lover 2020 Redux


23 posted on 01/18/2024 11:19:16 AM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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The Constitutionally Repugnant Reconstruction Acts Imposed the 14th Amendment via
Martial Law Powers In Time of Peace
https://states.americanstatenationals.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/AnnasReformatofGeoffreysTimeLineResearch.pdf


26 posted on 01/18/2024 11:33:08 AM PST by conservativeimage (Divorce the Deep State Peacefully: Become a State National: https://tasa.americanstatenationals.org)
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What a lot of bunk. It is easily established whether a person is 35 years or older or not, or if a president has served two full terms. Unfortunately that natural born citizen part has been allowed to go out into the fog. Trump hasn’t been indicted much less convicted of insurrection. Has anyone? If he is ever convicted, then we can talk.

Does anyone know how this was applied to former Confederate officials? I know that James Longstreet, among others, was indicted for treason. Gen. Grant objected to this, saying they were exempt from such prosecution by the terms of surrender. He convinced Andrew Johnson to get the Justice Department to drop the charges. Now, here we had an actual insurrection, and Longstreet was an important part of it, and yet he sought high federal positions, such as Secretary of the Navy and U.S. Marshal, and was actually appointed as Marshal for Georgia and Minister to the Ottoman Empire.


27 posted on 01/18/2024 11:37:16 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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TRUMP HAS NOT VIOLATED THE 14th AMENDMENT A$$HOLE!


29 posted on 01/18/2024 11:38:51 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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