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USS Marinette's executive officer Commander Jonathan Volkle dies by suicide while combat ship is moored in Ohio
The Daily Mail ^ | 11/14/23 | ALICE WRIGHT

Posted on 11/14/2023 7:58:54 PM PST by know.your.why

A married US Navy officer and father-of-two has died by suicide while his ship was moored in Cleveland, Ohio. Commander Jonathan Michael Volkle was found dead on board the USS Marinette on October 27, the Navy confirmed. The 44-year-old 'was found unresponsive and later pronounced deceased,' a statement from US Surface Force Atlantic said. 'Our thoughts go out to the Volkle's family during this incredibly difficult period, and we would ask their privacy be respected. 'Littoral Combat Ship Squadron (LCSRON) 2 is providing chaplain and mental health support to the ship's crew. Cmdr. Janet Brooms will be assigned as executive officer.' The second in command of the Littoral Combat Ship had served in the Navy after enlisting in 2007, working as a career surface warfare officer.

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To: xp38

If I was stuck in Cleveland I would do the same. That place is full of awful.


21 posted on 11/14/2023 10:01:01 PM PST by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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To: know.your.why

Proof? I was there. I literally heard every single rumor in the book as it happened during the war. Then a couple of years later, presto, there they all are, in one handy book. Too much “too good to be true” stuff and it all happened to him. Today, he literally teaches creative writing at West Virginia University.
The videotape incident of a girlfriend sending a VHS of her blowing a guy as a “Dear John” letter, yeah, heard that one. Of course, it was in his platoon. Every single rumor was real, and happened to him or his platoon.

The desert celebration wildly firing full auto into the air at night, around a bonfire, with loud music, with dead bodies on the highway of death? I didn’t see it and apparently there were no officers in his Marine Corps.
Oh wait, but actually there were... because his partner physically went after an Officer who forbade him to take a sniper shot at an Iraqi Officer. Then screams at him within rifle distance of the Iraqis. Yeah, sure.
The rumor back then was that it was Saddam! This is a corporal we are talking about. Didn’t happen. He would have been arrested and courts martialed.
Kuwait Airport and the Saddam and sniper rumor went around.

The way to read that book, is it’s a novel, from a kid from a family of vets who joined the Marines. Steeped on a diet of war movies, he went, wasn’t involved in much, and found it a let down. Came home, worked in a warehouse, went to college in Sacramento for English, and decided to write a book.

The book is fine, as a sort of zeitgeist tableau of every rumor and sea story that went around from that era. But very devoid of confirmations. Have you seen his brand scar? I haven’t. Have you seen anyone else in his platoon confirm his story? I haven’t. He is a John Kerry type with an active imagination and found a way to cash in.
Not a lot of Lance Coolies get a sniper job without going to sniper school.

There are some insights here and there and cool observations. But it’s his fantasy war novel based on being out there, and writing about the way it “should have been”.
I especially liked his getting lippy and sarcastic with his drill instructor... who of course, knew his dad by name. Fake again...


22 posted on 11/14/2023 10:15:49 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Prince of Space
Condolences. My oldest passed at 32 from sudden cardiac death care of Z-Pak (azithromycin). He had survived 4 open heart surgeries, 2 artificial valves, a "pig patch" and a two-lead pacemaker. The household and holidays have never been the same since he passed. The two younger sons have moved on to Oklahoma and Florida. Just my wife and the pets now. Life goes on, but differently. My wife is retiring next month. I continue working as the recent Middle East activity may require my services to government orgs.

Find a new purpose in life. You can't undo the loss.

23 posted on 11/14/2023 10:31:34 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: know.your.why

One never knows, way back then, if someone had their “bell rung”. Perhaps during physical training exercises.


24 posted on 11/14/2023 10:43:23 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( See"War bycšŸ™šŸ™ the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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To: know.your.why
The Navy has never been real great on mental health of crewmembers. A guy I served with in my shop was very likely Bi-Polar. He went from near perfect evals and quarterly sailor to losing two paygrades in a short time right after a change in division officers and an office shake up. The guy had been working in the office and was then sent to my shop. When he came to the shop he's start going off on rants one minute and being fine a few minutes later. That said he was the best pump mechanic on the ship and didn't mind work. He got out and to be honest over the years I wondered about him. Then one day he showed up on FB and sent me a message asking to call me. I knew it was him because he used my shop nickname and his. Seems he's doing well now. I was glad to hear it.

I was in during Carters entire term and morale went in the crapper on ship especially the closer it got to 1980. My first CO kept morale up and was one the crew had a deep respect for as he was one of the longest in The Hilton. He began his Navy career as a fireman recruit and retired as Rear Admiral.

Over the course of four years we had a few deaths onboard only one was suicide. A guy jumped off the flightdeck as we were transiting the channel coming home from our 77/78 MED. His body recovered a day or two later. The rest of the deaths was one natural causes a chief passed in his sleep and the rest were accidents. My shop ran the morgue. Bodies were taken to the aft walk in cooler and a watch from my shop posted outside the cooler until flyoff.

This comes to mind. We had two chaplains onboard serving 5000. They were free to counsel using Biblical teachings, prayer, and was the one who woke shipmates up to bring bad news from home. Several times I woke up and a guy would be gone. I'd ask where is whoever and someone would say he flew off ship last night emergency leave.

Todays chaplains as I understand it last I heard literally have their hands tied by Pentagon WOKENESS limiting their ability to serve.

Back in the day as some say it besides the chaplains we had senior officers who we could go to if in a bad way. They would lead prayer groups in the chapel etc. One was CHENG another was the ships weapons officer both very devout. There were more and then there were others who could make life miserable if you were vocal about being a Christian.

I think coed ships factor in as well as extended deployments and likely working sailors during shipyard time instead of giving down time with family.

My last year was entirely spent at Norfolk Naval Shipyard for our year long overhaul. The Pentagon was hurring repairs and put the crew doing what was traditionally yard work to sent the ship to the PG/IO. 3 or 4 section duty with long hours stinks. Before the yards it was 6 section duty and during the three month long post deployment stand down yard periods hours were 0700-1500 with sneak outs early frequently given on Fridays so guys could get home for a weekend for those with family close enough. The enlistment obligations times now are also ridiculous for a recruit. Unless a person is a nuke snipe 4 years active is plenty of service time.

When the ship went to sea 20 hour days were not uncommon for many. You had a 10-12 hour workday and two 4 hour watches every 24 hours. Thus when the ship came home generous stand down was given if possible. Staying busy when underway made the time go faster and on Sunday mornings sometimes you got unofficial time to catch up on highly needed sleep.

25 posted on 11/14/2023 11:21:50 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: Prince of Space

I am so sorry for your loss. May Godā€™s mercy bring you some peace


26 posted on 11/14/2023 11:33:59 PM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Deaf Smith
We have combat war ships in Cleveland, Ohio?

In a 1969 appearance on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, George Gobel joked about his stateside wartime service, "There was not one Japanese aircraft that got past Tulsa."

Regards,

27 posted on 11/15/2023 12:19:40 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: DesertRhino

Sir! Yes, Sir! ā˜ŗ


28 posted on 11/15/2023 2:43:58 AM PST by know.your.why (<>)
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To: Prince of Space

Bless you friend... took me about 3 yrs after my son did the same thing


29 posted on 11/15/2023 2:48:38 AM PST by billphx (ā€œPolitical correctness is tyranny with a happy faceā€ Charlton Heston)
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To: know.your.why

Enlisted to CDR in 16 years??


30 posted on 11/15/2023 2:51:44 AM PST by Rural_Michigan
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To: Prince of Space

So very sorry for your loss, FRiend.


31 posted on 11/15/2023 3:25:09 AM PST by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: know.your.why

I’m guessing there’s far more to this story.


32 posted on 11/15/2023 4:05:32 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: know.your.why

Good to know we have the best minds commanding our forces.
Will Dr Strangelove become reality soon?
Wouldn’t surprise me.


33 posted on 11/15/2023 4:41:58 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: Prince of Space

Sorry to hear about your tragic loss.
My prayers go out to you for healing.
Don’t know how I could cope except with constent prayer.


34 posted on 11/15/2023 4:46:13 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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I was in the Navy when Adm Boorda did it. That was a shocking event. Supposedly he claimed a couple medals that he wasnā€™t actually entitled to. Enlisted sailors loved him cause he went from E1 to O9.

Left a note for us. ā€œTo my sailors, what Iā€™m about to do is not very smartā€¦ā€. Something along those lines.

Suicide does such damage to those left behind.


35 posted on 11/15/2023 5:03:05 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: jdt1138
If I was stuck in Cleveland I would do the same. That place is full of awful.

Cleveland rocks! Go Browns! We wouldnā€™t want you here anyway.
36 posted on 11/15/2023 5:07:34 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Deaf Smith

Can’t have those pesky Torontonians sneaking across the border.


37 posted on 11/15/2023 6:06:23 AM PST by bgill
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To: Deaf Smith

“We have combat war ships in Cleveland, Ohio?”

In WWII they had destroyers at Memphis.


38 posted on 11/15/2023 6:42:02 AM PST by dljordan
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To: mmichaels1970

Go Indians!


39 posted on 11/15/2023 6:44:41 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: chud

Thank you for your condolences. Iā€™m not suicidal but I donā€™t care if I live or die anymore. I want to be with him again, but my family still needs me too much so Iā€™ll stay until itā€™s my time.


40 posted on 11/15/2023 3:36:48 PM PST by Prince of Space (Trump 2024!)
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