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Editorial: Will Democrats have to rescue the GOP again to avoid a government shutdown?
LA Times via Yahoo ^ | November 14th, 2023 | The Times Editorial Board

Posted on 11/14/2023 1:54:51 PM PST by Mariner

A little more than six weeks after Congress scrambled at the last minute to keep the federal government functioning, the country is again on the precipice of a shutdown.

It’s “Groundhog Day” Washington-style, but it’s anything but funny. The current crisis likely will be solved the way the last one was, by Democrats in the House coming to the rescue of a Republican speaker who faces opposition from extreme elements within his own party.

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If the new Speaker puts a bill on the floor that is not supported by a majority of his own party, he'll be the "previous speaker".

If a small cadre of the party insists on vacating the hair, assuming a majority of GOP yes votes, it's time to evaluate how this party operates. And yes, we need to look at the rule that says one Rep can initiate the vote to vacate. Bad rule.

1 posted on 11/14/2023 1:54:51 PM PST by Mariner
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To: Mariner

The country is broke. The few people in the GOP trying to cut spending aren’t the “extreme elements”. They represent most Americans.


2 posted on 11/14/2023 1:56:28 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Mariner

I get the feeling that the GOP will absolutely give the Democrats whatever they want. The GOP can’t stomach a shutdown.


3 posted on 11/14/2023 2:05:08 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Tell It Right

4 posted on 11/14/2023 2:07:54 PM PST by 4Liberty (https://twitter.com/Lauren3veMemes/status/1712636606983688420 )
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To: Mariner

It’s the LA slimes. If I lined my catbox with a copy of it my cat would pee and take a dump on my bed in protest.


5 posted on 11/14/2023 2:11:32 PM PST by SCConservative58
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To: All

Only 14% in one poll said Biden made them better off.......
and they were all members of the Biden Crime Family.


6 posted on 11/14/2023 2:13:04 PM PST by Liz (Women have tremendous power — their femininity, because men can't do without it. Sidney Sheldon)
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To: Tell It Right

You are correct. The United States is deeply in debt. A government shutdown would be a very good thing, as it might wake a few people up. And it might even lead to a balanced budget.

Unfortunately, the media would present all of this as a disaster. Grandma won’t get her Social Security check! VA hospitals will close! The GOP would be blamed, and they would fold.

Sigh. So off the cliff we go.


7 posted on 11/14/2023 2:13:33 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Mariner

When Republicans do what Democrats want, it’s called bipartisanship.

When Democrats do what Republicans want (even if it is mostly what the Dems would do anyway), it’s called rescuing the GOP.

Johnson needs time to get all the separate bills through the House. I’m willing to give him a break between now and January, as long as he keeps up the regular order end of the bargain.


8 posted on 11/14/2023 2:15:41 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: Mariner

It doesn’t matter which names end up on the agreement. It’s complicated keeping track of who can best get away with a yes vote at any particular time, and some vote trading for future favors probably has to play out too.


9 posted on 11/14/2023 2:15:45 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: Leaning Right

“A government shutdown would be a very good thing, as it might wake a few people up. And it might even lead to a balanced budget.”

The government has shutdown 21 times since 1976 and accomplished exactly nothing or possibly worse than nothing since we aren’t told everything.


10 posted on 11/14/2023 2:18:45 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: SaxxonWoods

> The government has shutdown 21 times since 1976 and accomplished exactly nothing… <

And that’s because the fiscal conservatives always fold, and kick the can down the road. “A balanced budget? That’s important! We’ll do it next year.” But of course that next year never comes.

In a way, I get it. The aunt who says “no” to a nephew demanding candy isn’t much liked. But every kid likes the aunt who gives them all the sweets they want.


11 posted on 11/14/2023 2:26:48 PM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

Agreed, FRiend, and they don’t even write a budget. That ended in 2009. The House just ignores that job now no matter which party is in power. The short-cut way allows for a lot more chicanery, they’ll probably never write another budget.


12 posted on 11/14/2023 2:33:38 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Successful People Have a Sense of Gratitude. Unsuccessful People Have a Sense of Entitlement)
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To: Tell It Right

“The few people in the GOP trying to cut spending aren’t the “extreme elements”. They represent most Americans.”

...spot on correct. The propaganda machine is and has been in full swing to convince dummies that these “few” are extremists. Seems to working pretty well. There are sh** loads of dummies.


13 posted on 11/14/2023 2:46:58 PM PST by albie
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To: Mariner

RINO pinhead thinking.


14 posted on 11/14/2023 2:47:00 PM PST by A strike (Words can have gender, humans cannot.)
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To: A strike

8 Uni-Party members voted yesterday to let Mayorkas off the hook. They will fold their tent and run for the hills on the shut down opportunity.


15 posted on 11/14/2023 2:59:43 PM PST by abbastanza
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To: chajin

How many of the 14(?) individual budget bills have been passed by the house and are sitting dead in the senate?


16 posted on 11/14/2023 3:04:47 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Mariner

Only big government folks freak out over “shutting the government down”.


17 posted on 11/14/2023 3:09:34 PM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna!)
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To: Mariner

I’ve never been inside the Capital, even on J6, so I can’t tell you much about the critters inside. But they sure do seem to be acting like every state’s DOT or DMV.


18 posted on 11/14/2023 3:16:41 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: Mariner

It passed 345 to 95. That’s pretty overwhelming. Not many bills get that many votes. I guess most liked this tactic of splitting the bill into two parts.


19 posted on 11/14/2023 4:40:51 PM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Tell It Right

this CR tactic has been effective in growing govt for over 10 years

once the conversation changes to govt shutdown

any discussion of cutting spending stops


20 posted on 11/14/2023 11:02:31 PM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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