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The MSM has always been untrustworthy. It is just more so today.

There is currently a movement among journalism schools and journalists to become advocates rather than dispassionately reporting the facts. They rationalize that the “existential threats” of “global warming deniers,” conservatives, Trump, individualism, and patriotism are so profound and so dangerous they they must be extinguished even at the cost of objective truth.

1 posted on 11/14/2023 1:22:22 AM PST by thegagline
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To: thegagline
Of course, he deserved some of the negative press

Part of the credibility problem right there. Nothing in the article supports that statement.

2 posted on 11/14/2023 2:06:34 AM PST by fruser1
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To: thegagline

The media had credibility? Not to my knowledge.


3 posted on 11/14/2023 2:15:46 AM PST by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: thegagline

The MSM has always been untrustworthy. It is just more so today.
There is currently a movement among journalism schools and journalists to become advocates rather than dispassionately reporting the facts. They rationalize that the “existential threats” of “global warming deniers,” conservatives, Trump, individualism, and patriotism are so profound and so dangerous they they must be extinguished even at the cost of objective truth.

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I’ve never cared or had any reason to trust the American media because they aren’t neutral in the way they disseminate and present information. In fact the only way nostalgia ‘works’ with the American media, is because “as bad as they were then, they’re worse now.”(More ideological, more incompetent, and less talented.)

Many of them start getting indoctrinated about liberal crusades & causes at a young age, which is one of the reasons they pursue the profession in the first place.


4 posted on 11/14/2023 2:28:23 AM PST by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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“ tumultuous presidency”

There is one reason and one reason only why Trumps presidency was “tumultuous”. Because the media would not stop blowing up literally everything Donald Trump did or said, screeching non stop like an insatiable pack of hyenas barking ceaselessly at volume 11 in a non stop attempt to both drum up ratings and to more importantly undermine every single one of his goals and erode public confidence in him personally


6 posted on 11/14/2023 2:34:57 AM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: thegagline

Doesn’t Howard Kurtz work for that has-been news network, FAUX NEWS.

Why yes, he does.

The network who shot themselves in the foot and have slid into the CNN vibe.

Who would believe or even less read anything he has to say?


7 posted on 11/14/2023 2:48:30 AM PST by Lakeside Granny (IN GOD WE TRUST with TRUMP WE STAND)
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To: thegagline

Just look at Woof Bitcher at CNN and wonder why he survived when Don Lemon did not.

And Wallace, who has become an exemplary non entity after leaving Fox in a paroxysm of woke funk.

Its all so hillarious that I have to make regular visits to the urinal , laughing hard.

OTOH, new faces like Greg Gutfelt and Jesse Waters have stepped up to point the way for future journalists.


8 posted on 11/14/2023 3:18:56 AM PST by Candor7 (( Ask not for whom THE Trump trolls...He trolls for thee!)<img src=""width=500></img>)
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To: thegagline

It all starts with Trumps declaration that “FAKE news is the enemy of the people”
Who could disagree with that? Calling certain news outlets fake is self explanatory because they did lie, practically two minute hate sessions.


9 posted on 11/14/2023 3:20:59 AM PST by griswold3 (I cannot change the Tide but I can learn to Sail)
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To: thegagline

The media have been biased as hell all my life. I remember my dad going on and on about their Liberal Bias as far back as the 70s.

I remember Dan Rather getting into it on air with GHWB in the late 80s.

I remember Dan Rather first airing and then sticking with a fake story about a letter from Dubya that people on this forum proved beyond doubt (it was typed in a font that did not exist until after the supposed letter was written) that it was fake and I remember Dan Rather trying to stand by his attempted fraud which was so embarrassing even See BS had to can him.

I remember when Walter Cronkite wrote his memoirs and shock shock revealed what a radical hardcore Leftist he really was.

But back then at least some of them used to admit that while yes, the media leaned overwhelmingly Left and Democrat they had professional standards and tried to not let their personal biases interfere with their code of professionalism. (they did exactly that) but at least some of them made some attempt at objectivity.

The mask slipped completely when Obama came along in 2007. They did not even try to hide their bias anymore. They practically dropped to their knees and serviced him live on air from the first moment they saw him and did not stop for the next 9 years.

So no, it wasn’t Trump that changed things. Trump was just the first guy to openly say to everyone what we already knew to be true about the media.


10 posted on 11/14/2023 3:21:56 AM PST by FLT-bird
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The Pulitzer Prize was established on the basis of advocacy journalism. The problem is public schools that have a long history of steering students away from critical thinking, among other things. Otherwise it is easy to see the MSM clown show for what it is.


11 posted on 11/14/2023 3:36:59 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (May I please have a government shutdown?)
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To: thegagline
"Of course, he deserved some of the negative press"


12 posted on 11/14/2023 3:40:30 AM PST by Enterprise
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To: thegagline

“That virtually all original reporting comes from the likes of the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, with their vast newsrooms, and the networks, and what these others do isn’t journalism at all.”

Most of the time the “original reporting “ isn’t journalism either and that’s the problem that prompted this article. The “reporters” are known to be untrustworthy. Why believe ANYTHING they write? I don’t.


13 posted on 11/14/2023 4:20:50 AM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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“...helped cement the narrative that the press was part of the deep state...”

It’s not a narrative. It’s a proven fact that collaboration is going on with those in the media and Deep State.

A few years ago it was found that Andrea Mitchell created a “list” of journalist who would all share daily talking points, to be presented as news, over and over again. This group was supposedly disbanded when it was revealed to the public.

MSNBC is the most obvious. Just take a look at Banjo Boy and his adulterous wife, along with the two Twinks (Willy and Hayes) to see the foaming from the mouth propaganda.

They are going to pay a price for their malfeasance. It will start slowing then all of a sudden. Joseph Goebbels shot himself because he knew what was going to happen once he no longer had protection from the state. The same thing here.


14 posted on 11/14/2023 4:24:03 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: thegagline
he MSM has always been untrustworthy. It is just more so today.

There is currently a movement among journalism schools and journalists to become advocates rather than dispassionately reporting the facts.

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Lets not leave the "distinguished and above reproach" Lester Holt out of this. This a-hole puts on the show that he is above all of this. He is the urnalist that gave killer capitol police cop (Michael Byrd) cover on national TV. He also said on another occasion that when necessary he will determine / screen the news content for accuracy before airing. You get one guess as to who he was screening. PDJT

I loathe this prick as I was exposed to him in the local Chicago "news" before he became Mr. squeaky clean nationally.

FULH

16 posted on 11/14/2023 4:34:17 AM PST by mund1011 (We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality)
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“Of course, he deserved some of the negative press, but most of the media began a virtual crusade against him.”

Like what?


17 posted on 11/14/2023 4:37:56 AM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: thegagline

The media has been the fifth column for decades.


22 posted on 11/14/2023 7:12:37 AM PST by ChuckHam
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...relished these attacks as reinforcing their world view.
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True but misses the target. It’s simply great to hear a leader say out loud what is *obviously true* for a change.


27 posted on 11/14/2023 7:42:49 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: thegagline

I’ve seen folks here claim media is over 15 years ago
It’s not
And it’s the biggest arrow in their quiver


29 posted on 11/14/2023 8:01:23 AM PST by wardaddy (I have seen true anti semitism is more common in USA than I imagined. A disease in the public mind)
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To: thegagline

Newsrooms whether print or tv tend to be run at editorial and publishing level by the same folks

Largely urban elites often Jewish secularists or not and their worldview which has become even more leftist and woke is hostile to the wellsprings of western civilization

Even with anti semitism and anti Israel sentiment alarmingly high they are trending towards the Hamas sympathetic or proportional response side and were all in on uniparty wars and woke politics

Some of these media properties are owned by conservatives like John Malone at CNN parent majority stock guy but he’s been unable to budge them much sadly

When I was young it was still there but not as flagrant or extreme


30 posted on 11/14/2023 8:08:10 AM PST by wardaddy (I have seen true anti semitism is more common in USA than I imagined. A disease in the public mind)
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To: thegagline

Kurtz when describing a less than trustworthy media is describing himself.


31 posted on 11/14/2023 8:51:35 AM PST by Greenidgypsy (I loathe the MSM.)
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