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US House votes to pause impeachment of Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas
Reuters ^ | November 13, 2023 | Moira Warburton and Ted Hesson

Posted on 11/13/2023 5:23:45 PM PST by Coronal

WASHINGTON, Nov 13 (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives voted on Monday to pause the effort to impeach Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, halting a Republican campaign that alleges he has been derelict in his duty of in managing the U.S.-Mexico border.

The articles of impeachment, introduced by Republican Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene on Thursday, contend that Mayorkas, an appointee of Democratic President Joe Biden, violated his oath of office by failing to constrain the record numbers of migrants arriving at the border.

The House voted to refer the articles back to the House Homeland Security Committee, which is carrying out its own investigation of Mayorkas's alleged dereliction of duty.

The move comes as Congress has less than five days to extend funding or send the U.S. into its fourth partial government shutdown in a decade.

The impeachment comes after months of threats from Republicans, who blame Biden's administration for rolling back harsh restrictions on accepting migrants and asylum seekers put in place under then-President Donald Trump, a Republican.

If the Republican-controlled House impeaches Mayorkas, he will almost definitely be found innocent after a trial in the Senate, which Democrats control by a slim margin.

In response to the initial impeachment motion, a U.S. Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said lawmakers should stop "their reckless impeachment charades and attacks on law enforcement" and instead "deliver desperately needed reforms for our broken immigration system."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar; dhs; feckless; fjb; fjbregime; house; mayorkas; pathetic; primarythem; treason
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To: Coronal

And they wonder why they can’t win elections even when you have a “Red wave” potential election.


101 posted on 11/14/2023 6:41:09 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: lapsus calami
If not now, then when?

Never, they don't want to lose out on any uniparty lobbyist junkets and dinners.

102 posted on 11/14/2023 6:43:24 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: wny

They are being blackmailed into compliance.


103 posted on 11/14/2023 7:06:51 AM PST by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: snarkybob

The votes aren’t there because GOP Reps from purple districts know pursuing it without slam-dunk evidence is political suicide. Ant Rep not in a safe, deep red, MAGA district is going to think twice about tilting at windmills.
The GOP majority in the HOR is hanging by a thin thread. Another self-destructive dog and pony show, like choosing the last Speaker, will be the kiss of death for Reps from purple districts.
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Playing endless Defense has NEVER been a long time strategy. I should know, living here in NY where my district was red, when I first moved here 27 years ago and witnessing it turn purple and now solid BLUE! Once the commies take over- it NEVER goes back- NEVER! The GOP’s strategy is sheer madness and one of a dying institution hence why I left the party back in December 2020 after being a registered Republican since 1988! Never again….


104 posted on 11/14/2023 7:14:38 AM PST by freddy005
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To: freddy005

“You touchI should know, living here in NY where my district was red, when I first moved here 27 years ago and witnessing it turn purple and now solid BLUE! Once the commies take over- it NEVER goes back- NEVER! The GOP’s strategy is sheer madness and one of a dying institution hence why I left the party back in December 2020 after being a registered Republican since 1988! Never again…. on a good point.”

That’s a good point. I remember when California was a solid Republican state.
Maybe the GOP is past its shelf life. Still, I would argue that what really changed was the demographics of those areas. Same with Arizona and Georgia, except those states are purple and not deep blue.....yet.

The cultural and societal norms always change over time. This is evident now in the decrease in people who identify as religious. I think that modern conservatism is going to have to adapt if it is going to continue to be a valid movement. I think the GOP is going to have to adapt if it’s going to remain a viable political party.


105 posted on 11/14/2023 7:48:41 AM PST by snarkybob
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To: Coronal
The GOP defectors were Reps. Ken Buck (R-CO), Mike Turner (R-OH), Darrell Issa (R-CA), Patrick McHenry (R-NC), Tom McClintock (R-CA), Virginia Foxx (R-NC), Cliff Bentz (R-OR), and John Duarte (R-CA).

What the hell happened to Tom McClintock? He better have a great, unexpected, insightful reason why he isn't voting to impeach!

OK, I went to his Twitter page - here is McClintock's statement:

November 13, 2023 Vote Notes on Legislation

Yes: Motion to Refer H. Res. 863 to the Homeland Security Committee – Impeaching Alejandro Mayorkas. Alejandro Mayorkas is the worst cabinet secretary in American history, guilty of malfeasance, neglect of duty and maladministration. He has implemented Biden’s open border policy that has produced the worst mass illegal migration ever recorded. Elections have consequences, and this is one of them.

The grounds for impeachment are explicitly laid out in the Constitution: “Treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.” Treason and bribery are well defined. But from the beginning, politicians have tried to stretch the meaning of “high crimes and misdemeanors” to apply to political disagreements, and that is antithetical to the fundamental architecture of the Constitution.

The founders specifically rejected terms like malfeasance, neglect of duty and maladministration as grounds for impeachment, because they feared such vague terms would be twisted for political ends and render the executive subordinate to the legislative branch.

Ultimately, they settled on “high crimes and misdemeanors.” Obviously, they would not have substituted one vague term for another. Thus, we are left with the plain and explicit meaning of the phrase. To remove an official by impeachment, it must be for a clearly defined crime and it must be a “high” crime, meaning one related to the official’s duties.

The House made a mockery of impeachment twice during the last session of Congress. We must not allow the left to become our teachers. If these clear constitutional principles are not restored, now, that power will be just one election from being turned against the constitutionalists on the Supreme Court, or upon any future Republican administration.

This is still B.S.

106 posted on 11/14/2023 7:49:39 AM PST by Yossarian
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To: FlingWingFlyer

What difference does impeachment and removal do? Biden will just appoint another Marxist who will ignore the illegal alien crisis, too.


107 posted on 11/14/2023 8:19:38 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: wny

What difference does it make if they remove him and he is replaced by a political clone?


108 posted on 11/14/2023 8:26:38 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: af_vet_1981
Actually the votes are lacking. It is required to win elections, not pretend they are (always) stolen. Sometimes they are just lost.

Prove the 2020 election wasn't stolen. Show all receipts.

Oh, we can't prove that?

So we should trust that the Democrats (and the uniparty) didn't steal the election. And we should ignore all the evidence that says that they did.

109 posted on 11/14/2023 8:40:00 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: snarkybob
You are correct. Many conservatives are struggling with the rapidly changing political landscape. Conservatives are not the majority anymore.

Common sense still is the majority. Trump is the common sense. The Democrats aren't.

Prove that the election wasn't stolen. Show all receipts.

110 posted on 11/14/2023 8:42:21 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: unclebankster; central_va

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They’re gun shy for a variety of reasons.

1) Thin margins in the House, with an unorganized party, almost zero discipline, plus Representatives in swing districts, it’s a recipe for “we don’t have the votes.”

2) Some think impeachment will backfire with the public like it did with the Slick Willie impeachment, they’re afraid and don’t really believe in it.

3) Many know that whatever the democrats say & spin will be carried by the media in favorable light. The GOP will be cast as villains who don’t have any policies so they’re “after Joe.” Unfortunately, a certain percentage of the public will believe the lies and vote accordingly.

4) Others want more evidence and for that evidence to swing the public, especially independent voters towards impeachment.

5) Some are bought off & work for DC.
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#1-4 ALL role into #5 &, there, you misspelled “MOST” (are).

There’s ~ a handful worth > a bucket of warm spit.


111 posted on 11/14/2023 8:54:40 AM PST by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: Jim Noble

Politicians see each other as friends. They socialize together, give each other jobs, and are neighbors with each other. We need to at least break up the socialization aspect.

Politicians should be required to live, full time, in the voting district that elected them. No 2nd homes. In fact those politicians should have to get permission to leave their elected area, even short absences,for the entire term. Make it so they can only debate or vote remotely.

Keep politicians separate from each other.

The goal to to first make politicians live with results of their legislation/trade policies. They shouldn’t be able to hide in luxury if their voting district is poor.

Another goal is to force politicians to see their voters as their fiends and neighbors. Make them afraid of public scorn as they do their daily shopping.

Separating them would also reduce lobbyist power. Instead of easy access to a centralized location (DC) there would be, at least 435 different location (spread out across the country) lobbyists would have to visit.

Treat politicians like an unrunelly teenager. Keep them at home, control who they see and keep them where friends/family can see what they are up to.


112 posted on 11/14/2023 8:55:43 AM PST by VetoBill
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To: snarkybob
The GOP has been wiped out electorally since 2018. Not wanting it to be true is not going to change it.

Excellent post.

113 posted on 11/14/2023 9:29:22 AM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: central_va
Impeachment is stupid he’ll never be convicted

No, impeachment is stupid because he'll never be impeached.

114 posted on 11/14/2023 9:32:10 AM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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To: i_robot73

6) Ball-less


115 posted on 11/14/2023 10:17:20 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Then you impeach that one.


116 posted on 11/14/2023 12:55:48 PM PST by Jonny7797
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To: Jonny7797

Meanwhile they let in another 2 million illegals. Impeaching this one won’t make his replacement do any better. The fish rots from the head down.


117 posted on 11/14/2023 2:18:24 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: VetoBill

Force all sessions to be livestreamed and recorded. No more voice votes…


118 posted on 11/14/2023 2:45:47 PM PST by SPDSHDW (FR is so far in the can that we make the DU idiots look civil sometimes. Hope you’re proud.)
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To: snarkybob

“The GOP has been wiped out electorally since 2018. Not wanting it to be true is not going to change it.”

Delusional again. California has allowed ballot stuffing the whole time. When early voting and vote by mail (with no verifications of ballots the cheating increased drastically). Hillary won 65,844,610 votes and Biden got 81,268,924 votes. The vote never increase that much by even a third if that percentage.

Biden won in the a lot counties and landmass compared to Obama. Yet he beat him in every black district in the nation by over 30%. Yea right, Biden was more popular with the black vote than Obama after insulting them throughout the campaign. You have to be living in media neverland to believe there was not massive cheating after everything that has come out.


119 posted on 11/14/2023 3:58:18 PM PST by BushCountry (A properly cast vote (1 day voting) can save you $2.00 a gallon.)
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To: Coronal
Really? Is Mayorkas really “almost certain” to be exonerated in the Senate? They are saying not a single Democrat gives a damn about saving America? The criminal cartel is that strong there?
120 posted on 11/14/2023 5:27:15 PM PST by Missouri gal
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