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The Army Needs a Lot of Money for Barracks, But It's Fighting for Pocket Change
Military.com ^ | 10/19/2023 | Steve Beynon

Posted on 10/20/2023 7:42:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

"I do use this in a pejorative term, and it's adulting."

Maj. Gen. James Isenhower III, the commander of the 1st Armored Division, was suggesting to a room packed with spectators earlier this month that a key cause of the mold and other poor living conditions in the Army is soldiers and families not maintaining their living spaces.

The mold in particular, pictures of which have made the rounds on social media and become something of a shorthand for the dire state of many Army barracks, has been the subject of multiple Military.com investigations revealing rooms made fuzzy with growing fungi.

"A lot of times, we just need to teach young soldiers and young family members what is appropriate and what is part of their obligation and basic responsibility as an adult," Isenhower continued speaking at the Association of the United States Army conference. "I will tell senior leaders, 'I don't have a mold problem, I have a discipline problem.'"

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KEYWORDS: army; barracks; funding
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The comments on social media have been brutal. Soldiers' concerns over dilapidated barracks that have faced years of neglect from Army officials, maintenance crews and Congress were being dismissed. It was pointed out that the generals, two West Point graduates with Roman numerals in their names, were seemingly shifting the blame to the junior enlisted.

Meanwhile Biden has $100 billion for Ukraine with no way to account for where the money goes.

1 posted on 10/20/2023 7:42:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

As a former member of the big red one, I wonder if GI have gone out of fashion.


2 posted on 10/20/2023 7:46:35 AM PDT by kallisti (Stay aware, no matter what happens or apparently happens.)
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To: kallisti

er, GI parties


3 posted on 10/20/2023 7:47:14 AM PDT by kallisti (Stay aware, no matter what happens or apparently happens.)
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To: kallisti

At a certain point, mold is embedded in the building materials and must be removed and replaced, sometimes even in the framing.


4 posted on 10/20/2023 7:47:58 AM PDT by MortMan (I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

One word.....Clorox.


5 posted on 10/20/2023 7:49:50 AM PDT by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Why? I lived in Quonset huts and tent cities during much of my time.


6 posted on 10/20/2023 7:50:20 AM PDT by rey
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The Army Needs a Lot of Money for Barracks, But It's Fighting for Pocket Change

Back in the 70s, when the Air Force and Army repositioned in Germany so that the Army could be in better position for the Fulda Gap, the facilities the Army left around Ramstein were atrocious. The Army's philosophy was that they may be "moving out" any time, so they didn't want to spend any money on facilities. The Air Force was just the opposite, so they spent large sums refurbishing the facilities the Army left.

7 posted on 10/20/2023 7:50:46 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Piss Off a Lib - MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!)
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To: jroehl

That can take care of the mold on the visible surfaces, but what about mold in the ventilation and behind walls?


8 posted on 10/20/2023 7:51:23 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

We don’t need so barracks for troops. We don’t need infrastructure for the US (one of Bidens promises), we need money for the Ukraine and refugees streaming across the border.


9 posted on 10/20/2023 7:52:38 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Attention terrorists! has Joe Biden forgot to fund your cell? Call the WH now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It doesn’t cost much to clean up barracks. Some cleaning agent. Some gloves. Some rags. Some E-2’s to E-4’s. If the barracks are dirty some after dinner marching parties. Easy peasy.


10 posted on 10/20/2023 7:55:34 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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"Some E-2’s to E-4’s"

You can't have the enlisted persons clean...it might hurt their feelings, they might not have enough time to watch dancing with the stars or project runway...and if one of them should complain, well you are in a world of trouble then.
11 posted on 10/20/2023 7:58:15 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

We need to go back to the old WWII wooden barracks. We never had “mold” problems with them. Okay. At least at all of the ones I lived in.


12 posted on 10/20/2023 7:59:49 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Palestinians are not "refugeez". They are muslim terrorists. Remember 9/11/2001.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“I will tell senior leaders, ‘I don’t have a mold problem, I have a discipline problem.’”

He’s right. Where are the Sergeants?


13 posted on 10/20/2023 8:00:21 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That’s complete bull shit, pardon my French. My family experienced this first hand in onbase housing at Ft. Bragg. They are clean. The mold was in places that you cannot clean. It is due to piss poor military contracts that build and maintain housing.


14 posted on 10/20/2023 8:02:37 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Rebuild the Temple.)
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Meanwhile Biden has $100 billion for Ukraine with no way to account for where the money goes.

Correction. The $100 billion is for Ukraine and Israel.

15 posted on 10/20/2023 8:02:59 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: ConservativeInPA

Rather than us pardon your French why not just obey JR’s rules of no cussing?


16 posted on 10/20/2023 8:06:30 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“I will tell senior leaders, ‘I don’t have a mold problem, I have a discipline problem.’”


Proper thinking.........................


17 posted on 10/20/2023 8:07:16 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: jroehl

CORRECT

APPLIED VIGOROUSLY WITH ELBOW GREASE !!!

I Haven’t b ought any ‘409’ or other kinds of cleaning products for a very long time.

I USE AMMONIA-—straight—spray bottle I can refill.

l pay less than $4.00 for a half-gallon.

IT cuts grease quickly. YES, IT SMELLS——BUT IT WORKS !!!!!

I also NEVER throw away a toothbrush. Cleans where I cannot scrub.

Kids today do NOT know how to do much of anything that doesn’t involve their cell phones.


18 posted on 10/20/2023 8:08:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I don’t remember the cleaning of our barrack’s room as being optional. Once a week...Tuesday maybe...room inspection. If you didn’t pass, your division officer heard about it. Room would be clean NEXT week.


19 posted on 10/20/2023 8:09:16 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

When I was in Korea, I worked in a Korean war era Quansit hut. The barracks were ok though.


20 posted on 10/20/2023 8:10:14 AM PDT by pas
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