Posted on 10/17/2023 9:03:14 AM PDT by RandFan
House Session - October 17, 2023
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100%. the only political hope was for Trump to take over the party with true MAGA people. But the swamp is doing what it always does...they co-opted the movement. Many Republicans says they support MAGA and Trump but the reality is much different when it comes to actual action. As long as they can get enough boobs to vote for an R because they're "better" than a D then the longer the shell game continues.
There is a party for you. It is not the GOP. It is the Democrat Party. You want to be centerist wing of the Democrats, go join their party. Do not demand, as your are doing, everyone in the GOP change to accommodate you.
lol
The Grand Old Uniparty enjoying what they’re doing — deliberately and selfishly so — to our Republic.
Bacon can’t get anything for his district if voted out in the general. It went +6.5% Biden in 2022.
Before primarying Bacon, I’d primary that Quisling Gaetz, who struck a deal with the Squad to remove the GOP Speaker in violation of the GOP Caucus rules. Gaetz moved to remove McCarthy because, after a GOP budget resolution supported by over 90% of Republicans failed to pass the House, he sent a 45-day CR to the floor that was supported by over 58% of Republican members and needed Democrat votes to pass; Gaetz’s motion was supported by only 4% of Republican members (which, if my math serves right, is a hell of a lot less than 58% of GOP members), and it passed only because Gaetz courted Democrat votes and got Jeffries to order his caucus to vote with Gaetz. And now we have no Speaker, and thus no way to have the House do anything at all. Surely the Florida Panhandle can find an actual conservative Republican to represent it in Congress instead of that whinny, camera-hogging prima donna with more teeth than IQ points.
I changed to No Party in 2005.
I Always vote for the most conservative candidates.
I will not be a member of the RINO Republicans or the Democrats.
We are witnessing the death of the GOP. AMF.
Gaetz is a snake oil salesman who looks like a slickster televangelist.
From the list of another FReeper:
Here are the Republicans who voted against Jordan on the first vote:
Rep. Don Bacon, of Nebraska, was the first to cast a vote for McCarthy.
Rep. Ken Buck, of Colorado, voted for Emmer.
Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRemer, of Oregon, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Anthony D’Esposito, of New York, voted for Zeldin.
Rep. Mario DĂaz-Balart, of Florida, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Jake Ellzey, of Texas, voted for Garcia.
Rep. Andrew Garbarino, of New York, was the second to vote for Zeldin.
Rep. Carlos Giménez, of Florida, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Tony Gonzales, of Texas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Kay Granger, of Texas, voted for Scalise.
Rep. John James, of Michigan, voted for Cole.
Rep. Mike Kelly, of Pennsylvania, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Jennifer Kiggans, of Virginia, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Nick LaLota, of New York, voted for Zeldin
Rep. Doug LaMalfa, of California, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. Michael Lawler, of New York, voted for McCarthy.
Rep. John Rutherford, of Florida, voted for Scalise.
Rep. Michael Simpson, of Idaho, voted for Scalise.
Rep.Victoria Spartz, of Indiana, voted for Massie.
Rep. Steve Womack, of Arkansas, voted for Scalise.
*Rep. Gus Bilirakis, of Florida was absent from the vote.
Is that how the district voted in 2020 or a poll?
Here is how the game is played in DC. The US House GOP is told “oh you have to only pass bills that the Senate will vote for and the White House will sign”.
The result is the House GOP consistently passes hard Left Democrats Legislation to “get things done”. The Democrat get all the political benefits while the GOP gets all the blame from the voters. This game has got to stop being played by the GOP. This is a chance to do that.
So rather then digging in their heals because their egos are hurt, the GOPE needs to “hold their nose” and vote for Jordan for the good of the party. Same way the Conservative wing has been told for decades they need to vote for RINO candidate after RINO candidate “for the good of the party”
“Matt’s daddy” Don was one of the first Florida GOP leaders to endorse Jeb! for president in 2015: https://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/dynasties-thrive-on-campaign-staffs-215801
How much pull does Don Gaetz have today?
here are the 20 RINO skanks who voted against Jordan in round 1
(a couple have indicated a flip next round)
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Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE)
Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO),
Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRemer (R-OR)
Rep. Anthony D’Esposito (R-NY)
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-FL)
Rep. Jake Ellzey (R-TX)
Rep. Andrew Garbarino (R-NY)
Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-FL)
Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX)
Rep. Kay Granger (R-TX)
Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA)
Rep. Jen Kiggans (R-VA)
Rep. Mike Lawler (R-NY)
Rep. Nick LaLota (R-NY)
Rep. John James (R-MI)
Rep. Doug LaMalfa
Rep. John Rutherford (R-FL)
Rep. Mike Simpson (R-ID
Rep. Victoria Spartz (R-IN)
Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR)
The overwhelming majority of the GOP base is MAGA conservative. 85-15. The elected GOP a$$holes are 85 - 15 RINO to conservative.
Gaetz got rid of the guy working with the democrats to enslave our kids and grandkids.
BTW you are no Goldwater republican, you should change your screen name to McCain republican.
So you a political irrelevant wasting your vote because your ego is more important to you then actually accomplishing anything politically.
You really need to spend some time learning how politics works in a Constitutional Republic
Chaos for the sake of chaos is no strategy.
But maybe Gaetz had reasons for what he did that have not fully matured
Zeldin? Not as good as Jordan -- a 71 Liberty Score (c), but vastly preferable to McCarthy and his 54 (F) or Scalise's 58 (F.)
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