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1 posted on 09/30/2023 5:58:01 AM PDT by EBH
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BTTT


2 posted on 09/30/2023 6:04:14 AM PDT by nopardons
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Do they even put in gas furnaces in new construction anymore?


3 posted on 09/30/2023 6:07:21 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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Regulation of appliances.

Yeah, right there in Article I Section 8.


4 posted on 09/30/2023 6:07:32 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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The Stupid is Strong with the Biden Admin


5 posted on 09/30/2023 6:10:14 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Most all new construction gas furnaces are 95% units. However, existing 80% FAUs that will need to be upgraded will also need exhaust/input tubing and other physical accessories. The gas cost savings will not be substantial enough to pay for the installation for decades.


6 posted on 09/30/2023 6:13:00 AM PDT by cartoonistx ( the feeling of fainting! )
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Glad I just bought a new one this year

$8000, but was $3900 in 2021

The new AC cut my electric bill more than half

I burn wood too, so I’m good to go now


7 posted on 09/30/2023 6:14:49 AM PDT by digger48
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Why is this just now news, it’s been in the news for some time, and there is a wide list of products. Washing Machines, Fans, Light Bulbs, Gas stoves, Hot Water tanks, propane grills, AC, and furnaces are just a few. Besides your gas car.

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9 posted on 09/30/2023 6:26:26 AM PDT by GailA (Constitution vs evil Treasonous political Apparatchiks, Constitutional Conservative.)
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The split personality of the Left demands “affordable” everything then demands “green” homes and appliances the “poor” cannot afford.


11 posted on 09/30/2023 6:27:54 AM PDT by Wuli
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Could anyone be dumber than Granholm? If this regulation also applied to boilers, oil heat would be non-existent. I guess you have to move to a city now for gas service


13 posted on 09/30/2023 6:31:43 AM PDT by overtaxedindc (Oh how things have changed)
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Can be a big boon to the repair market, I have gas boiler (really like it) and having to convert to another method would really suck.


15 posted on 09/30/2023 6:36:05 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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I’m waiting for this winter when the armed EPA agents swoop down on the burner barrels the homeless and illegals use to warm themselves……


16 posted on 09/30/2023 6:39:48 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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...require non-weatherized gas furnaces and those used in mobile homes to achieve a far higher level of efficiency than cheaper models on the market.

So we all understand this...

That means making them expensive which means working class people will now not be able to afford housing of their own.

City dwellers have to live in apartments and small flats due to government.

18 posted on 09/30/2023 6:40:29 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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How much pollution does NatGas produce? This is simply virtue signaling taken to a whole new level for the Great Reset?


20 posted on 09/30/2023 6:44:06 AM PDT by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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The Department of Energy (DOE) said the energy efficiency regulations would slash household utility costs by $1.5 billion on an annual basis while reducing greenhouse gas emissions


What a LIE!


23 posted on 09/30/2023 6:48:44 AM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is tnow fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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If you are forced to upgrade or replace, it's not saving anything.
There used to be grandfather clauses to new rules, what happened to that?
New tech is good only if the paying customer can choose it after considering all pros and cons.

27 posted on 09/30/2023 7:08:01 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty)
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“Because of the stringent AFUE requirements, the regulations would largely take non-condensing gas furnaces — which are generally less efficient, but cheaper — off the market. But consumers who replace their non-condensing furnace with a condensing furnace after the rule is implemented face hefty installation costs.”

Our high efficiency condensing furnace condensate was routed in the A/C condensate line to the outside. The furnace unit is located in the attic.

The problem in the winter when the temperature is below freezing for several days the condensate will freeze on the ground and build up to plug the pipe.
Water will back up and trip a switch that shuts off the furnace.

Rerouted condensate pipe in attic to vent line of clothes washer.


28 posted on 09/30/2023 7:10:16 AM PDT by Phil
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People are starting to get mighty tired of this phony climate change BS and the ridiculous Biden mandates. Even Bill Gates realizes this.


29 posted on 09/30/2023 7:20:49 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand (P)
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The DOE is in the top three agencies I’d pick for liquidation.

Right behind DoED, FBI. And 20 right after that.


30 posted on 09/30/2023 7:31:06 AM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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As I have said before, only when this damnable administration has all of us back to living in caves will they be happy. Of course like Swabb says, “You will have nor own anything and be happy”.


33 posted on 09/30/2023 7:51:55 AM PDT by kagnew
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Electric heating is much less efficient than natural gas heating. More “green” idiocy.


35 posted on 09/30/2023 7:54:40 AM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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