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Video shows missile smoke trail as plane allegedly carrying Prigozhin falls from sky
Times of Israel ^ | 08/23/2023

Posted on 08/23/2023 6:56:04 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Video showing what appears to be the trail of an anti-aircraft missile, as a business plane allegedly carrying Wagner chief Yegveny Prigozhin falls from the sky.

There is no still no official confirmation if Prigozhin was on the plane, where he was listed as a passenger.

⚡️ Самолёт, который разбился в Тверской области, принадлежит Евгению Пригожину, утверждают издание Baza и журналистка Ксения Собчак. На борту бизнес-джета Embraer, как утверждается, были 7 человек, они погибли.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Russia
KEYWORDS: chechnya; death; missile; prigozhin; ramzankadyrov; russia; wagnergroup; yevgenyprigozhin
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To: SeekAndFind
...missile smoke trail... ?

All I saw was smoke from the plane falling

61 posted on 08/24/2023 5:09:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SeekAndFind

It wasn’t a matter of if. It was a matter of when.


62 posted on 08/24/2023 5:39:17 AM PDT by Clioman
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To: cpdiii

That is the way I understood it. What a message. Also, I thought that maybe he informed him that he would kill him and gave him a choice in how he could go. But I dismissed that scenario.


63 posted on 08/24/2023 5:53:24 AM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: logi_cal869

Look again and you will see smoke from an impact explosion just to the left of where you first see the plane.


64 posted on 08/24/2023 6:36:53 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: gleeaikin

Yes, lots of questions remain.

Hell, maybe it was the pro-Russian separatists who shot it down. After all, they have a track record for doing just that: Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17.

And, like you, I also would not be surprised if Prigo was alive and well somewhere.


65 posted on 08/24/2023 6:58:24 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: G Larry

There is no ‘missile smoke trail’. Like the ‘holes’ being bandied about as evidence (which actually appear to be the opposite as being asserted), this is propaganda.


66 posted on 08/24/2023 7:09:32 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869
I said smoke from "impact explosion"!

I did NOT say "missile smoke trail".

Go back and view the first 3 seconds of the video!

67 posted on 08/24/2023 7:12:37 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: G Larry
..smoke from an impact explosion ...

While this is true, there is NO trail from an ascending missile.

Therefore, is it REALLY an 'impact'?

I would expect a MUCH larger mass of smoke.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VBiqsQ2CjY

68 posted on 08/24/2023 7:45:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
In that short blip I would not expect to see an ascending smoke trail.

It would have been too far left and below the smoke at the point of impact.

69 posted on 08/24/2023 7:52:10 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: G Larry
Why?

It is powered all the way to the target.


70 posted on 08/24/2023 9:25:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Because the video didn’t start that early and wasn’t focused in that area!!!


71 posted on 08/24/2023 11:06:27 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: ought-six; Widget Jr; Paul R.; Monterrosa-24; MeganC; tlozo; Timber Rattler; MalPearce; PIF; ...

Has anything been heard from the second plane? If it was also a Prigozhin owned plane, I imagine those on board might have something to say. It could even have been the one carrying him. If so, would it have diverted to a different airport, one less likely to have Putin people waiting for the arrival. What a murder mistery we have here! It may take a few days to even become somewhat clearer, much less solved.


72 posted on 08/24/2023 11:13:58 AM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin

I imagine those on board might have something to say.

They were arrested by Russian special forces: Spetsnaz, if that’s any clue to their fate.


73 posted on 08/24/2023 11:19:24 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF; ought-six; Widget Jr; Paul R.; Monterrosa-24; MeganC; tlozo; Timber Rattler; MalPearce; ...

Does anyone have information on nuances of Spetsnaz relations with Putin or Wagner, or their own internal conflicts?


74 posted on 08/24/2023 11:36:42 AM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin

Mortal enemies. Need more?


75 posted on 08/24/2023 11:38:50 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Paul R.

Sorry.
I confusingly was referring to the TWA Flight 800 controversy. Clancy, now long dead, went with the excuse that the missile was fired from the ground, not from the barge offshore that witnesses described——followed by swift government coverup.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/15/twa-flight-800-crash-anniversary-conspiracy-theories/7830073002/


76 posted on 08/24/2023 11:40:52 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: frank ballenger
followed by swift government coverup.

I'll bet we have thousands of people on the cover up payroll for all the times we have to do this.

77 posted on 08/24/2023 11:42:51 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

Ha.

Government staff member: “Hey, it’s a living.”

Resume said “Formerly on security detail for Jeffrey Epstein.
Author of the book “The 2020 Election Was Fair and Honestly Counted.”
You’re hired.


78 posted on 08/24/2023 11:49:16 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: gleeaikin

Spetsnaz are Special Ops forces. The Russian Spetsnaz are similar to our Green Berets.


79 posted on 08/24/2023 12:19:00 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: PIF; ought-six; Widget Jr

“Need more?” Answer is YES.

As written, the answere needed to be Enemy of Putin, Enemy of Wagner, or Enemy of Both. Incidentally, any information on how Spetsnaz feels about Kaderov and his Chechen Militia?


80 posted on 08/24/2023 12:34:21 PM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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