Posted on 08/05/2023 8:27:17 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Looking ahead to 2024, Democrats concede some cause for concern -- including President Joe Biden's anemic approval rating and early polls forecasting a repeat race against former President Donald Trump in which Biden either ties or trails, due in part to a notable chunk of undecided voters and apprehension over Biden's age and acuity, which he has repeatedly dismissed.
Looking ahead to 2024, Democrats concede some cause for concern -- including President Joe Biden's anemic approval rating and early polls forecasting a repeat race against former President Donald Trump in which Biden either ties or trails, due in part to a notable chunk of undecided voters and apprehension over Biden's age and acuity, which he has repeatedly dismissed.
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the Deep State is playing us hard. They recognize they will have to deal with a President Trump next term. Consequently they will drive the legislatures as Blue as they can.
Its the old “binary” control techniques
This is the fear.
Trump isn't doing anything to help himself, help his campaign and help America in this cycle. He's phoning it in. He's been broken. It's annoying but it's reality.
DeSantis is clearly not ready for prime time and should go back to FL. He's seat-warming veep material. Overhyped in a way that usually happens with Dems (like John Edwards & Beto).
I don't see a strong alternative.
Vivek is smooth on the campaign trail but some of his policies are problematic like getting back into these discounted foreign trade deals like the Trans Pacific Partnership.
He's saying many of the right things but do I feel he's got the conviction and experience to move the agenda? I do not.
2024 is feeling more like minimizing the damage than it does about victory. I've often said it feels like the nation is where CA was in the late 90s or early 2000s as Republicans became virtually extinct as a factor in the state's politics.
So true, snarkybob. Conservatives are clinging on to Limbaugh's chest-thumping proclamation from the 1990s - "this country is fundamentally conservative". It might have been true 3 decades ago, but it is no longer the case, and conservatives on this board, who live in an echo chamber, do not realize how much the ground has shifted underneath us. It seems very likely that any Dem going against Trump next year will become the first Democrat President in 6 decades to exceed 400 electoral votes.
I agree his picks and loyalty to bad choices is his Achilles heel.
Is he better than a Democrat? Hell yes. But he is his own worse enemy.
The education system has done its job of cranking out Cultural Marxists.
Well said.
True, and we no longer have an alternate cadre of credible, pedigreed intellectuals who can espouse and explain the conservative message, like we did in decades past. The big names of the 20th century - Russell Kirk, Milton Friedman, WFB, William Safire, Robert Novak, etc. - have all died or left the scene, and have not been replaced by anyone of that caliber.
“Build Back Better”, means destroying first!
But I guess the idiot voters didn’t realize that, did they?
Here is a simple unpleasant fact. Trump will never set foot in the White House again unless a future Republican president invites him for his official portrait unveiling.
“True, and we no longer have an alternate cadre of credible, pedigreed intellectuals who can espouse and explain the conservative message, like we did in decades past. The big names of the 20th century - Russell Kirk, Milton Friedman, WFB, William Safire, Robert Novak, etc. - have all died or left the scene, and have not been replaced by anyone of that caliber.”
Agreed. Somewhere along the way, we traded conservative intellectuals in for conservative “shock jocks”.
We might have been better off sticking to policy foregoing “Owning the libs”.
“Here is a simple unpleasant fact. Trump will never set foot in the White House again unless a future Republican president invites him for his official portrait unveiling.”
I believe that you are correct. Trump hasn’t grown his base at all. In fact, his base has shrunk. Unfortunately, that will not matter to his most loyal base. As I stated in an earlier post, too many conservatives only believe things that they want to be true. So we’ll continue to hear about “Red Tsunami’s”, that women support Roe being overturned, That conservatives are a silent majority and other wishful-thinking based concepts.
Dems have solid locks on all minority voters, single women of all races, college educated voters, and Millennials/Gen-Z. And many of these locks are huge, 70/30 or greater.
Their pool is increasing as ours is shrinking. They wake up on the morning of Election Day with 257 EVs already in the bag (as well as millions ahead in the national popular vote, as meaningless as this is).
2016 was an aberration, unlikely to be repeated.
Gen-Z in particular, nihilistic and despondent over their inability to ever achieve the American Dream (thanks in part to policies enacted by their parents and grandparents) will embrace every far-left platform position presented to them. Climate change, gun control, tax the rich, unlimited abortion, "woke" restrictions on the First Amendment, you name it. They love all of this stuff. They have nothing to lose by voting the rest of us into a dystopian Dark Ages. They will have their revenge.
And, as 2022 demonstrated, Gen-Z learned how to vote and enjoyed doing it. They will come out in numbers.
I support DeSantis over Trump because Trump can't win. DeSantis *might* win and "might" is better than "can't." But, honestly, I think he'd likely lose as well.
The GOP will be wandering in the wilderness for a generation. People may be fleeing California with their feet for Florida but when it comes to voting, the country will vote to be California.
Yep. See my post above this one.
The article is not about candidate performance. It is about whipping up a frenzy over abortion to hide the cheating and the actual failure of their party. When the lead example is about how closely they lost to a republican, there is little doubt that it isn’t going as expected.
That was a dark post.
I wish I could disagree with it—but my only quibble is that the Democrats have mastered the art of cheating—so the demographics are irrelevant at the end of the day since there is no reliable way to assess them.
“And, as 2022 demonstrated, Gen-Z learned how to vote and enjoyed doing it. They will come out in numbers.”
This, as much as anything else, is going to be responsible for a political re-alignment on a national level. Millennials and Gen-Z are not becoming more conservative in the traditional sense. Some of them have become more libertarian, but they support legalized weed, abortion, trans and gay rights. It may be possible for the GOP to make inroads with this demographic, but that will mean shelving the culture war issues and focusing on less regulation, less taxes.
There won’t be any change until people experience the pain that comes from making the wrong choices.
DREW for God’s sake GIVE IT UP your guy is a damn repeat of GWB!!!
“There won’t be any change until people experience the pain that comes from making the wrong choices.”
Apparently, that hasn’t happened yet. At least for the Democrats. I’d say the GOP is currently experiencing the pain of the choices they made. I believe 2024 is already lost. Depending on how long women stay POed about the Dobbs decision and how many deep red states push more severe penalties for issues like weed and abortion, the GOP may be looking at several more election cycles in the woodshed.
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