Posted on 07/14/2023 6:20:07 AM PDT by rktman
The left likes to treat skeptics of electrical cars as if they were Luddites. Truth is, making an existing product less efficient but more expensive doesn't really meet the definition of innovation.
Even the purported amenities and technological advances EV makers like to brag about in their ads have been a regular feature of gas-powered vehicles going back generations. At best, EVs, if they fulfill their promise, are a lateral technology.
Which is why there is no real "emerging market" for EVs in the United States as much as there's an industrial policy in place that props up EVs with government purchases, propaganda, state subsidies, cronyism, taxpayer-backed loans and edicts. The green "revolution" is an elite-driven, top-down technocratic project.
And it's increasingly clear that the only reason giant rent-seeking car makers are so heavily invested in EV development is that government is promising to artificially limit the production of gas-powered cars.
In August 2021, President Joe Biden signed an executive order to set a target for half of all new vehicles sold in 2030 to be zero-emission. California claims it is banning combustion engines in all new cars in about 10 years. So, car makers adopt business models to deal with these distorted incentives and contrived theoretical markets of the future.
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I think EVs are great. The more sold the less demand for gasoline. The lower demand for gas means a lower price for gas.
Leave it in an alley. Walk away. Report it stolen.
As said, it’s not my car. I’m just reporting what my friends told me about their experiences.
A large source of lithium in this country is The Great Salt Lake. Unfortunately, it takes a great deal of electrical power to obtain/refine it. The same can also be said for the Bingham Canyon copper mine.
I can put enough gasoline in my car to go 350+ miles in under 5 minutes. How much time is required to do the same with an EV?
That certainly IS an important factor ... but refueling time is a function of both energy density and storability. That's the only reason I didn't include it!
Well it is (or used to be) a free country, and nobody can take that away from them...:)
True that. But isn't that the same for just about anything that's produced? Besides, your argument sounds like an environmental argument (in other words, tell that to the libs). From a free market perspective, the costs to mine (i.e. power costs) are part of the costs of doing business. In a free market you wouldn't do the mining unless you can make a profit. I believe right now the price for copper is high enough to make good money from mining copper (if the government got out of the way). Is that right?
I’ve friends who have also sworn allegiance to Tesla. Their reasons were a mix of rational and wishful thinking. They think the cars are more environmentally ‘friendly’ (nope). They are, however, less expensive to operate (not counting depreciation, which will be significant). The cars are different, to be sure, but in the end, not in my view, ‘better’. I will have to say the acceleration is impressive, but without the growl of an ICE powering the ride, it left me.... wanting. Sterile interiors. Overwhelming technology. In the end, no thanks.
Great choice for golf carts.
“ The country and western world would have been better off….”
….without the Dixie Chicks.
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I had to read your post about three times to realize you weren’t talking about BOTH kinds of music!!!
You do like Hawaiians do with junk cars, just leave them at the side of the road as an eyesore. A few months later, they may be removed after all useful parts have been stripped.
That, and Henry Ford had a discussion with Thomas Edison about people living away from power stations being able to use cars. We take it for granted today that everybody's home has power, but that wasn't always the case.
Someone should educate the ECO nuts about all this. If it was possible to educate them on reality.
Not mining here makes china stronger. Make slavery profitable in mining other places. Drains American money. Profits the One World Oder crowd.
Anyone ask them where they will get tires once fossil fuels are gone?
They will just raise gas taxes to make the cost of ICE prohibitively expensive anyway.
Isolated cases perhaps. As doctors, they may use them primarily to ferry back & forth from the hospital or office. They also have means to fly on vacations, take Ubers, taxis or other ride shares.
If you use a pickup for hauling equipment or materials, drive 50+ miles to work and back, or routinely drive to locations that are several hundred miles from home, an EV isn't going to cut it.
If you're a driver that did the math and can make EVs work for you, perhaps as a secondary vehicle, get an electric car. It should be about choices, not mandates.
Have no problem with EV’s. Except I don’t want to pay(taxes) for people to drive them. I perfectly happy with my 07 FJ cruiser. 200k miles and no problems. 17.5 mpg. Sold Toyota’s for 26 years. Great company! Was there when the Prius first came out. Story was, Toyota lost 12k on every one they sold. And yes, it’s a Hybrid.
Yes, electric is a scam. And all those that say otherwise are just wrong. Or lying to themselves. Or in the case of government, lying to the American people
“Except I don’t want to pay(taxes) for people to drive them.”
I don’t want to pay the taxes for the Superfund cleanup sites either.
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