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Trump says he should be exonerated because jury was not informed about law or Clinton case
Just the News ^ | Updated: June 13, 2023 - 11:54am | Madeleine Hubbard

Posted on 06/13/2023 9:45:58 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday said that he should be exonerated of the federal charges he faces relating to his handling of classified materials because the grand jury in the case was not informed about the Presidential Records Act or about another case involving former President Bill Clinton's storage of presidential materials in his sock drawer.

"THE GRAND JURY WAS NEVER TOLD ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL RECORDS ACT OR THE CLINTON SOCKS CASE, BOTH EXONERATING!" Trump posted in all capital letters on Truth Social as he is scheduled to appear in a federal court in Miami later in the day for his arraignment on 37 counts for allegedly mishandling classified documents.

The grand jury issued the indictment containing the more than three dozen counts against Trump last week.

Trump has said that he is protected under the Presidential Records Act, which he argued allows him to continue negotiating with the National Archives about which materials he could retain from his time in the Oval Office. The National Archives has said this claim is "false." 

The Clinton sock drawer case started when historian Taylor Branch revealed in a 2009 book that he and Clinton had made hours of audio recordings during Clinton's presidency. The tapes were stored in the White House sock drawer.

Judicial Watch, a legal watchdog group, filed a lawsuit to compel the Archives to forcibly seize the Clinton tapes. U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson rejected the case by stating that the Presidential Records Act did not include a provision allowing the Archives to seize materials from former presidents.

But Jackson's ruling included some other sweeping declarations that have more direct relevance to the FBI's decision to seize handwritten notes and files Trump took with him to Mar-a-Lago...

(Excerpt) Read more at justthenews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: criminallyweakcase; nocasejack; records; trump; trump2024
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

CLASSIFIED INFORMATION PROCEDURES ACT

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18a/compiledact-96-456

“The court, upon a sufficient showing, may authorize the United States to delete specified items of classified information from documents to be made available to the defendant through discovery under the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure, to substitute a summary of the information for such classified documents, or to substitute a statement admitting relevant facts that the classified information would tend to prove.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18a/compiledact-96-456/section-4

“(a)Notice by Defendant.—
If a defendant reasonably expects to disclose or to cause the disclosure of classified information in any manner in connection with any trial or pretrial proceeding involving the criminal prosecution of such defendant, the defendant shall, within the time specified by the court or, where no time is specified, within thirty days prior to trial, notify the attorney for the United States and the court in writing. Such notice shall include a brief description of the classified information....”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18a/compiledact-96-456/section-5


21 posted on 06/14/2023 4:23:26 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (SPENDING STRIKE: No new car/new house/additional gun - No meals out/stock buy/travel/home remodels)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“....his counsel, Lloyd Cutler, asked me point blank one day when I made the mistake of just stopping by to say hello, if I was keeping a diary with the president. So somebody in the White House told him, and he felt honor obliged to disclose that to the special prosecutor, who was then up and running, not the fact that we were a diarist but to disclose it to the lawyer, David Kendall, who was handling those matters for both Clintons.”

“And David had to listen to some of the tapes, so he knew about them. And he had to respond to the subpoenas, asking for pertinent information in the president’s possession about these topics that they were investigating. And we were on pins and needles, that is the president and I and eventually Hillary, about whether those submissions that he made would tip off the special prosecutor’s office that the disclosures that, the little items that he picked out that he said were responsive to the subpoenas, comments about Whitewater or whatever, were part of a larger project and that that would leak. But fortunately it didn’t happen. And I don’t really know very much about Kendall’s interaction with the special prosecutor except to say that we never got a subpoena for them, and I never got a subpoena about this project. So we escaped somehow.”

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/113269412


22 posted on 06/14/2023 4:39:41 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (SPENDING STRIKE: No new car/new house/additional gun - No meals out/stock buy/travel/home remodels)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“Ultimately, plaintiff conceded that even an order deeming the materials to be Presidential records and directing the defendant to make an effort to retrieve them would not bind the former President to produce them, Tr. at 60:14–20, and it would not make them magically available under FOIA”

https://fingfx.thomsonreuters.com/gfx/legaldocs/dwvkdwkwdpm/frankel-judicialwatchvNARA—ABJopinion.pdf

I’m not a lawyer and I can’t absolutely state that the quote is relevant.


23 posted on 06/14/2023 4:52:36 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (SPENDING STRIKE: No new car/new house/additional gun - No meals out/stock buy/travel/home remodels)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If the Socks don’t fit, you must acquit!


24 posted on 06/14/2023 4:59:02 AM PDT by Observator
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To: Brian Griffin

The very first... “Article 2 Section 1. Clause 1: The executive Power shall be vested in the President of the United States.”

This means he had total control of the documents produced in the Executive Branch while President. Plenary power: full; complete; entire; absolute.

President Trump while in office was the Executive Branch of government and not his subordinates.

Congress legally cannot make any laws or rules to override or take precidence . As they say, that would be unconstitional law.


25 posted on 06/14/2023 5:26:42 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Precidence = precedence


26 posted on 06/14/2023 5:32:05 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump’s lawyers letter to Congress, well worth the read. It sounds as if NARA was setting him up.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23789802-read-trump-lawyers-letter-to-congress-reveal-foreign-leader-briefings-may-be-among-classified-documents-taken-from-white-house


27 posted on 06/14/2023 5:32:40 AM PDT by euram (allALL)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If the jury was not informed of the law how could they rule on the evidence? Case dismissed by Judge Cannon.


28 posted on 06/14/2023 6:01:06 AM PDT by chopperk ( C)
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To: chopperk

Grand juries don’t rule on evidence. They rule any way the judge tells them to.


29 posted on 06/14/2023 6:06:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trumps attorney client privilege was destroyed, as they said the lawyer was part of the crime. But Cheryl Mills, the Hillary attorney actually smashed cell phones with a hammer, and they didn’t dare interview her.


30 posted on 06/14/2023 6:15:05 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus (The trouble with socialism is that you soon run out of other people's zoo animals to eat.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They should play “Send In The Clowns” theme when the DOJ shows up for this trial.


31 posted on 06/14/2023 6:15:46 AM PDT by SkyDancer (One Day For Our Flag A Whole Month For The Pride Flag - Think About That!)
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To: SkyDancer
They should play “Send In The Clowns” theme when the DOJ shows up for this trial.

Yep, Trump needs to hire a full blown marketing team to put this stuff together as ads to help the low info voters understand what is occurring.

32 posted on 06/14/2023 6:17:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What’s the law got to do with it?

Absolutely NOTHING.

The United States of America has become an AUTHORITARIAN state ruled by an ILLEGITMATELY installed regime.

Trump is simply making his COMMON SENSE arguments to the court of public opinion who are also legitimate voters IF legitimate votes really matter.

The polls tell me Trump arguments are WINNING in the court of public opinion.

Trump’s strongest argument was one of the first he made.

The major purpose of the indictment at least the timing of the indictment was to DISTRACT from the real crimes of Biden which are MINOR compared to the acts of TREASON committed by Big Brother to cover-up those crimes.

Biden is a small fish compared to those like Mike Morrell in the CIA who committed crimes to see that Biden was illegitimately installed through the completion of a coup.


33 posted on 06/14/2023 6:23:25 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Sgt_Schultze

That Barnes podcast / interview is outstanding. I watched about two-thirds of it last night.


34 posted on 06/14/2023 6:55:01 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Do you think we could get Sandy to fetch some UFO stuff for us?


35 posted on 06/14/2023 7:18:55 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Brian Griffin; noiseman
Article I, Section 8 The Congress shall have power...To make rules for the government...”

Brian, you just shredded Article I, Section 8, Clause 14 of the Constitution.

Full context:

Definitions:

Congress has the power to make rules for the acts of governing and regulating the land and naval forces. Congress does not have the power "to make rules for the government". That turns the Constitution completely upside down.

Noiseman's Article II Section I post was right on target.


36 posted on 06/14/2023 8:00:13 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Varsity Flight

Ridiculous argument.

Forget about the personality of Trump you hate so much, and focus on the precedent this indictment starts.

Every other President will indict his political opponents, and then where does that leave our country?

I spent 22 years in uniform serving my beloved country, and I’ll be damned if smart a$$es like you tear her apart in your TDS!


37 posted on 06/14/2023 8:25:01 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: mewzilla
Grand juries are allowed to see/hear Brady material. Correct. But the prosecution is not compelled to present exculpatory evidence to the grand jury.
38 posted on 06/14/2023 10:34:39 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: navymom1
Can the case still be thrown out before trial? A little confusing here.

Yes. The defense can do it through motions (written and oral) The Judge can do it sua sponte.

39 posted on 06/14/2023 11:10:39 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater in 2024)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

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40 posted on 06/14/2023 1:10:42 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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