Many in Russia's elite no longer believe Putin can win the Ukraine war

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[dennisw]

Members of the Russian elite are turning against the Ukraine war, Bloomberg reported. They best they can hope for is losing without humiliation, the report said. However Putin shows no sign of wanting to end the conflict, it said.

Many members of Russia's elite are growing doubtful about the ability of their president, Vladimir Putin, to win the war in Ukraine, Bloomberg reported.

The best they can hope for is a "frozen" conflict or a loss in which Russia isn't humilated, the report said.

Despite this deepening gloom, Putin shows no sign of wishing to end the war, according to Bloomberg.

The outlet cited seven people with knowledge of the situation who asked not to be identified given the seriousness of the issues.

It said that many in the upper echelons of Russian politics and business are tired of the war and want it to end.

Five sources told Bloomberg that while no one is willing to "stand up" to Putin over the invasion, belief in his authority has been shaken.

"It is really surprising how widespread among the Russian elite became the idea of a chance that Putin won't win this war," Kirill Rogov, a former Russian government advisor who left the country after the invasion, told Bloomberg.

It is unclear what a victory would look like for Russia, but two sources told Bloomberg they hoped Putin would try and claim a "Pyrrhic victory" on the basis of land in Ukraine that Russia already occupies.

Alexandra Prokopenko, a former Russian journalist and central bank advisor, told Bloomberg that "'the best they hope for is that Russia will lose without humiliation."

[dforest]

And you sir are an ignorant dolt.

[amnestynone]

Right after you go and fight for Russia.

[JonPreston]

I am a man of peace, I will not fight. You, on the other hand, are an Angry, Empty Barrel clamoring for war. Are you afraid to go?

[canuck_conservative]

when are you going to fight?

so now you're encouraging more more fighting & conflict

obviously, you're no "man of peace", you're a fraud & a liar

get rid of that peace symbol you Russian warmonger

[kiryandil]

neocon tub-thumping on this thread, BIGLY.

[JonPreston]

The Canadian Tub-Thumper is very angry today. I fear things are going poorly on the front

[kiryandil]

The Babylon Bee:

‘The Russians Blew Up Our Dam!’ Says Zelensky While Still Holding Detonation Plunger Thingy

[cabojoe]

Your peace sign is like garlic and the Cross to a vampire.

[JonPreston]

Ha!! So true

[amnestynone]

You are not a man of peace you a supporter of a ruthless brutal war mongering country that has been our enemy for the better part of a 100 years.

The only time it wasn’t was when Boris Yeltsin ran it. We thought the cold war was over but with Putin running it he was a return to the norm though we did not recognize what he was and what Russia still is until the present.

The only way there will be a peace is to See Russia defeated and preferably split up so it cannot be a continued threat to the rest of us.

[JonPreston]

You're an Empty Barrel, and here's some proof. Your glowing review of a McDonalds hamburger is all anyone needs to know about you. Now beat it, ya' bum

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  amnestynone to lizma2

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[amnestynone]

What a stupid entry Ivan.

[amnestynone]

Someone sabatoged my email address this afternoon. I am thinking that was you.

[JonPreston]

Someone sabatoged my email address this afternoon. I am thinking that was you.

You sound like a Clown

[cabojoe]

[laplata]

That sounds like what Hitler repeated from 1944 into 1945.

[Allegra]

Wait! Yesterday someone posted that when they want unbiased objective info on the Ukraine invasion by Russia they look to dennisw for it.

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

Or Kiev Karen with the AOL account. 😄😆

[McGruff]

The propaganda is getting waste deep.

[JonPreston]

Bump