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Popular handgun fires without anyone pulling the trigger, victims say
WaPo via SFGate ^ | 4/11/2023 | By Champe Barton and Tom Jackman

Posted on 04/11/2023 1:21:01 PM PDT by NohSpinZone

One warm afternoon in May, Dwight Jackson was getting dressed for a visit to his favorite cigar lounge. He slipped his holstered SIG Sauer P320 pistol onto his belt, put on a button-down shirt and leaned across his bed for his wallet. Suddenly, he said, the gun fired, sending a bullet tearing through his right buttock and into his left ankle.

"I heard 'bang!'" said Jackson, 47, a locomotive engineer who lives in Locust Grove, Ga. "I looked down and saw blood."

His wife heard the shot from down the hall and screamed. She called an ambulance while Jackson hobbled toward the front door, painting a trail of blood over the hardwood floors.

The P320 is one of the nation's most popular handguns. A variant of the weapon is the standard-issue sidearm for every branch of the U.S. military. Since its introduction to the commercial market in 2014, manufacturer SIG Sauer has sold the P320 to hundreds of thousands of civilians, and the gun has been used by officers at more than a thousand law enforcement agencies across the nation, court records show.

It has also gruesomely injured scores of people who say the gun has a potentially deadly defect.

More than 100 people allege that their P320 pistols discharged when they did not pull the trigger, an eight-month investigation by The Washington Post and The Trace has found. At least 80 people were wounded in the shootings, which date to 2016.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; handgun; shooting; sigsauer; trigger
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To: wjcsux

This is what I’m thinking. A number of police officers have shot themselves in the arse while attempting to re-holster Glocks and other pistols with trigger mounted safety levers. Not a SIG specific thing at all.


81 posted on 04/11/2023 4:49:55 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: wjcsux

This is what I’m thinking. A number of police officers have shot themselves in the arse while attempting to re-holster Glocks and other pistols with trigger mounted safety levers. Not a SIG specific thing at all.


82 posted on 04/11/2023 4:50:25 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Damn I thought it was. Volvos.


83 posted on 04/11/2023 4:59:08 PM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: NohSpinZone

A lot of guns will take a pot shot at their owner if the jughead tries to clean the gun without unloading it first.


84 posted on 04/11/2023 5:02:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to indict the Dung Beetle Party's token affirmative action chubby cheeked shyster lawyer.)
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To: Quickgun

We had one happen at the police range here a couple of months ago.


85 posted on 04/11/2023 5:12:03 PM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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To: NohSpinZone
The only demonstrated defect in the P320 was from replacement of the trigger shoe with a 3rd party product that was heavier than factory spec and dropping the pistol precisely on the back of the slide with the slide/grip at a 45 degree angle to the surface struck. The extra mass of the trigger shoe is sufficient to pull the trigger with that kind of hard strike. Demos were performed with blank ammo and drops of 4 ft to the floor.

I own a P320 with a 3rd party flat face trigger. The 3rd party supplier informed me that that flat face trigger did not have the extra mass found in the curved face version and would not require replacement with a lighter, safer version.

Apex trigger customer advisory

86 posted on 04/11/2023 5:19:54 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: BipolarBob

My P238 hasn’t shot me yet. But the day’s young


87 posted on 04/11/2023 5:22:19 PM PDT by TStro (Better to die on your feet than live on your knees)
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To: NohSpinZone

Only the military version has a manual thumb safety. People not familiar with pistols should use manual safeties.


88 posted on 04/11/2023 5:42:23 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: OldWarBaby

Hey, at least it was his butt and not something else. Right about now I bet he’s relieved it wasn’t appendix carry...

CC


89 posted on 04/11/2023 5:43:14 PM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: MHGinTN

Article said he holstered the weapon then tucked his shirt in. Probably tucked the shirt into the trigger guard. When he bent over the bed the shirt tugged on the trigger, perforating his dumb ass,


90 posted on 04/11/2023 5:47:10 PM PDT by Shamrock-DW
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To: TLI
Good thing, that could get a little smelly.

LOL! And to think I was completely sober when I typed that.

91 posted on 04/11/2023 6:05:09 PM PDT by fso301
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To: TStro

I have been concerned about all of this gun violence and decided action must be taken. I assembled my guns around and had a stern talk to them about being violent. It was a consensus that they were not assault weapons but they assured me they were only defense weapons. I took them at their word and let them go. I only hope other gun owners will take similar actions to end gun violence.


92 posted on 04/11/2023 6:06:57 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Not my fault, yer Honor. I went to the Alec Baldwin School of Firearms Handling. )
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To: jdege

“But some of these claims are that it fired while holstered, which is a very different thing.”

And...people lie! All the time. Particularly when embarrassed or in search of money. And when it is both?


93 posted on 04/11/2023 6:10:59 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: Delta 21
You dont own any revolvers?!

Revolvers are inherently dangerous. If you file too much on the sear they can go fully auto. The carnage is too much to risk.

94 posted on 04/11/2023 6:15:12 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Not my fault, yer Honor. I went to the Alec Baldwin School of Firearms Handling. )
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To: BipolarBob

And you never want to add a bump stock to a revolver. That’s like throwing gasoline on a fire.


95 posted on 04/11/2023 6:16:39 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Not my fault, yer Honor. I went to the Alec Baldwin School of Firearms Handling. )
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To: BipolarBob

This reminds me for some reason when I visited the haunted mansion (Collinwood Mansion) that I carried with me a ghost gun (because you can never be too sure).


96 posted on 04/11/2023 6:22:13 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Not my fault, yer Honor. I went to the Alec Baldwin School of Firearms Handling. )
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To: NohSpinZone

That is what I was going to ask.


97 posted on 04/11/2023 7:02:30 PM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: NohSpinZone

There are videos on YouTube of ‘reputable’ gun vloggers demonstrating that the P320 can be made to fire by striking it on the rear of the slide.

DoD knew the P320 has this problem before replacing the Beretta with them.


98 posted on 04/11/2023 8:22:07 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Mr Rogers

People do lie, but these reports have been coming in for years, since the first day that the P320 was on the market.

And the P320 did have drop problems.

And IIRC the P320 was Sig Sauer’s first try at a striker-fired pistol.


99 posted on 04/11/2023 9:07:27 PM PDT by jdege
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To: NohSpinZone

Finally the liberal radicals have got their man, a gun that thinks for itself! what they have been hoping for all along. Now anyone behind this fire arm or any other is innocent only if you are in a protected class against the white Christian domestic terrorists


100 posted on 04/12/2023 2:23:37 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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