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Russian Tanks Can Escape Depleted Uranium Rounds by Leaving Ukraine: NSC
MSN-Newsweek ^ | 3----21 | David Brennan

Posted on 03/24/2023 3:44:53 AM PDT by dennisw

The U.S. National Security Council spokesman has suggested the best way for Moscow's tankers to avoid the British depleted uranium munitions being sent to Ukraine would be to retreat back across the border.

London announced on Monday that it would send depleted uranium tank rounds—which are particularly effective in piercing enemy armor—along with the Challenger 2 main battle tanks being provided for Kyiv's use. The news touched off a furious reaction in Russia, where President Vladimir Putin falsely equated the munitions to nuclear weapons.

NSC spokesman John Kirby on Wednesday dismissed the Kremlin's concerns about the depleted uranium munitions during a briefing with journalists.

"And if that's really the concern—if the Russians are very concerned about their tanks staying fully operational—they can just take them across the border back into Russia and take them out of Ukraine; they don't belong there in the first place. That would be my recommendation if they're concerned about threats to their tanks."

Depleted uranium rounds are 70 percent denser than lead, producing significantly more kinetic energy. On contact with armor, parts of the rounds sheer off and self-sharpen, making their passage more deadly to tankers inside armored vehicles. Smaller than lead alternatives with the same mass, depleted uranium rounds have less aerodynamic drag and can hit targets at longer ranges. They are also inherently incendiary.

"It's going to be a bad day for Russian tankers when they meet the depleted uranium munitions, because there's simply nothing they can do to defend themselves against those," Mark Voyger—a former special adviser for Russian and Eurasian affairs to ex-commanding general of U.S. Army Europe Ben Hodges—told Newsweek.

"No Russian tank, as far as I know, can withstand such a hit," Voyger—now a non-resident senior fellow at Center for European Analysis and professor at American University of Kyiv—added.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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1 posted on 03/24/2023 3:44:53 AM PDT by dennisw
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The Russian complaints ring particularly hollow given its military upgraded some of its tanks to use depleted-uranium shells in 2018, with state media quoting an expert at the time saying that the munitions do not violate any international treaties.
2 posted on 03/24/2023 3:51:28 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: dennisw

sensible advice

of course, Putin will be too stupid to follow it


3 posted on 03/24/2023 3:52:22 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (14th month of this war now)
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To: dennisw

Depleted uranium is Uranium 238. This can be turned into Plutonium 239 . It is a waste of potential energy to be using it for anything else.


4 posted on 03/24/2023 3:52:30 AM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second..)
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To: dennisw

And if NATO withdraws to it’s 1991 borders, peace will come.


5 posted on 03/24/2023 3:52:43 AM PDT by JonPreston
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And if NATO withdraws to it’s 1991 borders, peace will come.

Right, the peace of a new Iron Curtain across eastern Europe.

6 posted on 03/24/2023 3:58:03 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: JonPreston

“And if NATO withdraws to it’s 1991 borders, peace will come.”

I am pro-NATO while you are Pro-Russian irredentism. You can look that word up son.


7 posted on 03/24/2023 3:58:47 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: JonPreston

there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking & invading its neighbors

the only reason NATO still exists is because of Russia’s malicious actions


8 posted on 03/24/2023 3:59:21 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (14th month of this war starts today!)
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And if NATO withdraws to it’s 1991 borders, peace will come.

Including the abandonment of Poland, Romania, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Hungary, Albania, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Croatia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovakia, and Slovenia?

Riggggght.....

9 posted on 03/24/2023 4:00:49 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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“Right, the peace of a new Iron Curtain across eastern Europe.”

And is why every nation bordering Russia hates Putin and his gang of idiots. And none want the Russian boot back on their necks.


10 posted on 03/24/2023 4:01:14 AM PDT by dennisw
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Maybe Mr. Kirby is unaware of the new Ukrainian border.

Maybe they will retreat to their border while they can.

11 posted on 03/24/2023 4:01:54 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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I guess abiding by the Minsk Accords and apologizing for the 2014 coup never occurs aa an option.


12 posted on 03/24/2023 4:08:32 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they wacnto diese for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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To: Timber Rattler

Agree, NATO needs to be completely dissolved. That should of happened back in 1995. The globalists wanted NATO, now they got NATO good and hard. Too bad NATO = US taxpayer foots the bill.


13 posted on 03/24/2023 4:10:12 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: JonPreston

Occupation and enslavement by russia is ‘peace’ by your definition, but not the sort of peace that the Baltics, Poland, Slovakia, etc. wanted for themselves, which is why they applied to be admitted into NATO.


14 posted on 03/24/2023 4:10:26 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: Nateman

The Navy CIWS uses depleted uranium rounds. That is the sum total of my depleted uranium knowldege.


15 posted on 03/24/2023 4:11:56 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Timber Rattler
Including the abandonment of Poland

Can't Poland defend themselves, or are they a nation of blithering idiots like some of the jokes infer?

16 posted on 03/24/2023 4:14:31 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: canuck_conservative
the only reason NATO still exists is because of Russia’s malicious actions

Well if all y'all in NATO think it is so important and Russia is so threatening why don't y'all pay up and relieve the American taxpayer of paying the cost of what you guys apparently want. Freeloaders.

17 posted on 03/24/2023 4:16:01 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: 2banana

Long before the Minsk Accords, Russia invaded Georgia (2006)

so Russia was already violating the treaties it signed in the early 90s, promising to respect its neighbors boundaries, long before Minsk


18 posted on 03/24/2023 4:17:04 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (14th month of this war starts today)
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To: central_va
NATO needs to be completely dissolved

can't, it's still needed

because Russia is still a malicious menace that keeps attacking and invading its neighbors


19 posted on 03/24/2023 4:19:29 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (14th month of this war starts today)
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To: canuck_conservative

See if you see a pattern.

Coup in Georgia.
NATO arms and advisors
Ethnic cleansing of anything Russian
Joining of NATO


20 posted on 03/24/2023 4:20:54 AM PDT by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they wacnto diese for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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