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Either Trump or Ron DeSantis would beat Biden in 2024, survey finds
NY Post ^ | Jan 21 2023 | Mary Kay Linge

Posted on 01/21/2023 11:39:39 AM PST by frogjerk

President Biden would lose to either of the top Republican rivals if he tries for a second term in 2024, according to a new survey.

Both former President Donald Trump and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis would beat Biden if the 2024 presidential election was held today, the Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll found Friday — while nearly two-thirds of those polled, 65%, said Biden should not run for re-election at all.

The online survey of 2,050 registered voters found that 46% would support Trump in a rematch of the 2020 election, with 41% favoring Biden and 13% unsure. Trump’s 5-point edge was identical to the poll’s December results.

Biden would lose to DeSantis by a narrower 3-point margin, the survey found. The two-term governor, who has not announced a White House bid, would beat the sitting president by 42% to 39%, with 18% undecided.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; desantis; election; trump
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To: NFHale

Neither Trump nor DeSantis will win against any Democrat unless the GOP finds a way to overcome the ballot harvesting and ballot fraud machine that the Democrats have put in place.

That should’ve been fixed for the 2022 midterms. Clearly it was not.


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21 posted on 01/21/2023 12:17:15 PM PST by volunbeer (We are living 2nd Thessalonians)
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To: frogjerk

Anything breathing would beat Biden.


22 posted on 01/21/2023 12:19:39 PM PST by livius
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To: frogjerk

Given a fair hearing my late beagle might best Joe Stupid.


23 posted on 01/21/2023 12:23:52 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: livius

Don’t underestimate the stupidity of the American people.


24 posted on 01/21/2023 12:23:56 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: frogjerk

Duh


25 posted on 01/21/2023 12:24:11 PM PST by albie
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To: frogjerk

Forget Biden, he won’t be the nominee. He’ll be forced to get out. Even today his #1 adviser Ron Klain announced he’s leaving the sinking ship.


26 posted on 01/21/2023 12:30:43 PM PST by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: frogjerk

https://www.takimag.com/article/purge-and-cleanse-no-loose-ends/
[Enough With the BS Polls
In 2023, maybe you could cool it with the “Harvard-Harris” polls? Harris org is run by a crank named Mark Penn, a leftist-turned-rightist (I never trust people who “snap” like that, because they’re either mentally unstable or running a con) who poops out monthly “push polls” engineered to make rightists think that everything they’re doing is great and there’s no need for course correction.

In July I tried to warn you about Penn’s abortion poll, which was deceitfully crafted to make rightists think they held the popular position on abortion going into the midterms. The poll didn’t allow “illegal under any circumstances” as a response, thus forcing pro-lifers to choose a more moderate, mainstream response.

“Push poll” means you push respondents, corral them via limited options, so that they give the desired answers.

The phony abortion poll went super-viral on the right. I said it was misleading, and the midterms bore that out.

A few weeks ago there was another Penn poll (more info here) about Twitter and the FBI, again finessed to create a preordained result (same deal: Respondents weren’t allowed to answer “I don’t know,” thus fatally skewing the responses), and again salivating Twitter rightists sent it viral.

Fake polls don’t help. That alone should stop you from sharing them. But if I have to wade into conspiracy-yarn territory to get you to stop sharing this crap, okay, ask yourself this: Would Harvard allow its name to be attached to these polls if they actually helped rightists?

Maybe Harvard understands that the false sense of security created by inaccurate polls (like the ones Hillary relied on that caused her to stop campaigning in swing states in 2016) never helps, and always hurts.]


27 posted on 01/21/2023 12:30:57 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: frogjerk

Trump beat him in 20.

Election fraud is ensconced now.


28 posted on 01/21/2023 12:37:50 PM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: frogjerk

Depends on who is harvesting the ballots.


29 posted on 01/21/2023 12:41:22 PM PST by Armando Guerra
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To: frogjerk

Is that before or after the fraud, I mean fortification measures?


30 posted on 01/21/2023 12:43:56 PM PST by blackdog (Z28.310 )
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To: frogjerk

Voter fraud is not America’s friend but those who fraud the most win elections


31 posted on 01/21/2023 12:50:10 PM PST by no-to-illegals (The enemy has US surrounded. May God have mercy on them.)
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To: frogjerk

These surveys are complete hogwash.

- Vote fraud is not fixed and it’s not going to be fixed, ever

- There will be no more Republican Presidents, conservative or RINO

- Joe Biden will not be on the 2024 ticket. The Dems installed a head of cabbage in 2020 and they can easily install whatever sock puppet they chose in 2024.

- Depressing? Very. Accurate? Yep. The Deep State Hydra cannot be removed via elections. And any other options are not going to happen and likely wouldn’t work anyway.

Flame away. I’m just acknowledging reality. Am I giving in? Hell no. Not to the bitter end. I simply have lost what illusions I used to have about the outcome.


32 posted on 01/21/2023 12:56:16 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: frogjerk

That’s funny…

Just DAYS ago an article here said that Trump could never bear Plugs and that DeSantis would only get close to it…

These things are pure BS. Why waste time and space on them here?


33 posted on 01/21/2023 1:02:08 PM PST by joethedrummer (We can't vote our way out of this, folks..)
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To: frogjerk

Question is moot. Biden looks to be on his way OUT before 2024.


34 posted on 01/21/2023 1:03:15 PM PST by PJ-Comix (Sam the Scam and the Cryptos )
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To: Louis Foxwell

It is demonstrative of cowardice, and nothing else


35 posted on 01/21/2023 1:23:53 PM PST by NFHale (But IThe Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.She was, indeed, a hottie… Rest in peace, Joanne.)
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To: frogjerk

Ah, but would they defeat Big Mike?


36 posted on 01/21/2023 1:33:07 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: frogjerk

Why not? Trump destroyed Biden in 2020. Doesn’t matter anymore, does it? Anyone who thinks ANY number of people voting for the republican in 2 years will matter any more than it did in 2020 is stupid. And I’m sorry to put it that way. STUPID.


37 posted on 01/21/2023 1:59:48 PM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: alternatives?

It’s a poll of “registered “ voters. Therefore it is worthless.


38 posted on 01/21/2023 2:01:31 PM PST by be-baw
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To: frogjerk
It's not about polls.

it's not about popularity, or momentum, or campaigns.

it's all about paying the most people to deliver and bring in the most absentee/mass mail votes.
39 posted on 01/21/2023 2:13:31 PM PST by John 3_19-21 (The FBI is a proven threat to our republic. Prove me wrong.)
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To: frogjerk
Does anyone seriously believe that Mister Biden will run for re-election?

One suspects that any notion of Biden running is metaphorical head-fake.

Watch to see if potential Dem hopefuls start to queue to get maximum media exposure.

40 posted on 01/21/2023 2:18:08 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston Churchill)
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