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Either Trump or Ron DeSantis would beat Biden in 2024, survey finds
NY Post ^ | Jan 21 2023 | Mary Kay Linge

Posted on 01/21/2023 11:39:39 AM PST by frogjerk

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To: frogjerk

Not if the democrats CHEAT, they won’t.


41 posted on 01/21/2023 2:55:11 PM PST by Pearfect (o)
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To: NFHale

The GOPe is made up of two groups. One doesn’t believe the diverse and ubiquitous vote fraud is real and the other group is okay with it. The cheat range limit used to be 4-6%. AZ just proved there is no limit. As things stand today I see little to no hope the rats lose in 24.


42 posted on 01/21/2023 2:56:33 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: frogjerk

In an honest election.

But those are history and who is going to be elected will be decided by the elite and their election fraud machine.


43 posted on 01/21/2023 3:07:02 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: NFHale

Cowardice is based on sin and shame.


44 posted on 01/21/2023 3:09:37 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (We are not fit to live free but must be enslaved to control the chaos of our unfettered appetites.)
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To: frogjerk

Whoopi Goldberg could run and win in 2024. The Democrats own the vote producing machines and processes. They know the Republicans will close their eyes to the blatand fraud.


45 posted on 01/21/2023 3:26:21 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe |l|)
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To: 9422WMR

They have not perfected cheat. The Republicans and the courts refuse to look at it.


46 posted on 01/21/2023 3:28:31 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe |:|)
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To: frogjerk

STFU!

What the hell do they know? NOTHING!

Polls are rigged and/or scientifically challenged.


47 posted on 01/21/2023 3:29:04 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: frogjerk

Have they fixed vote fraud? No, Trump or DeSantis would NOT win.


48 posted on 01/21/2023 3:33:01 PM PST by FrogMom (Time marches on...)
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To: NFHale

Amen!


49 posted on 01/21/2023 3:39:11 PM PST by navymom1
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To: frogjerk

That’s what we thought in 2020.

It all depends on who counts the ballots.


50 posted on 01/21/2023 3:45:02 PM PST by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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To: NFHale

I believe Biden will probably defeat either - without needing large scale ballot fraud - if the economy is at least fair next year, and definitely if it’s strong. That is what history tells us.


51 posted on 01/21/2023 3:47:23 PM PST by lasereye ( )
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I believe Biden will probably defeat either - without needing large scale ballot fraud - if the economy is at least fair next year, and definitely if it’s strong. That is what history tells us.

Pfft. LOL!!!!

52 posted on 01/21/2023 3:48:30 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: lasereye
I believe Biden will probably defeat either - without needing large scale ballot fraud - if the economy is at least fair next year, and definitely if it’s strong. That is what history tells us.

Not to mention that Gen Z is woke and they're coming of age. They're overwhelmingly pro-Biden. So the Democrats won't need to cheat. They just need to win both Arizona and Georgia and they've already done that in 2020.

53 posted on 01/21/2023 3:49:52 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: NFHale

The Democrats have complete control of about 260-270 electoral college votes.

If anyone thinks that Georgia or Arizona are going to be battleground states they’re living in Fantasy Land.

Kemp is bought and paid for. Raffensberger is pushing Ranked Choice Voting and the winner doesn’t have to get 50%+1 anymore. Simple majority to avoid runoffs.

And then there’s Arizona.

Buh-Bye……it’s one of the things you get when Republicans in state legislatures don’t have the gonads to take the steps necessary to, at least try and ‘limit’ the fraud. If not get rid of all the mechanisms.


54 posted on 01/21/2023 3:56:36 PM PST by qaz123
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To: frogjerk
Utah is probably a good laboratory for the GOP to learn in. They send out mail-in ballots to every registered voter whether solicited or not. Voters are inclined to vote conservative, but you know that Deep Staters like Romney are using every trick in the book to collect soft votes.

Still, there is hope in how much the Romneyite faction got trounced in the mid-terms. Senator Mike Lee and Congressman Burgess Owens, both of whom the Romneyite faction tried to primary and then defeat in the general election might provide some clues on how to run campaigns and maximize mail-in voting.

55 posted on 01/21/2023 4:31:15 PM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: frogjerk
"Either Trump or Ron DeSantis would beat Biden in 2024, survey findsl

No they won't.

56 posted on 01/21/2023 5:10:45 PM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: NFHale

The idiots who run the GOP don’t even believe it’s a problem so there isn’t much chance it gets fixed.


57 posted on 01/22/2023 4:29:59 PM PST by gibsonguy
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Why doesn’t the GOP just ballot harvest like in California?

The J6 protesters found out "justice" is different for MAGA people than BLM rioters. Do you think Merrick Garland would do anything for "ballot harvesters" with the the wrong ideology if they get arrested?

Horowitz is still DOJ IG. I'm not sure we can trust him.

58 posted on 01/22/2023 4:37:00 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: frogjerk

Ballot harvesting is just one way the unelected administrative state maintains control.

If that doesn’t work they will install one of their own, bribe, impeach, blackmail, brainwash, assassinate - whatever it takes.

Fixing the ballot harvesting and other election fraud might allow a Republican to win - but that’s not a real solution - the deep state needs to be eradicated or they will simply use one of the other tools to regain the upper hand.

They tried everything against Reagan, including assassination - he managed to make it to the end of his term, but even then, they had a plan B. Just wait him out and install Bush Sr, who was one of their own.

If Trump can fight his way back into the White House it will be a major miracle - but even then, his job has just begun if he wants to defeat the deep state.

The only way he can do it is somehow wake voters the f up to the fact that they are no longer in control - if they ever were.


59 posted on 01/23/2023 4:47:52 AM PST by enumerated ( )
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To: gibsonguy

One can almost believe that they don’t WANT it to be fixed…


60 posted on 01/23/2023 10:58:01 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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