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1 posted on 01/18/2023 6:26:01 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2023/01/17/fact-check-biden-had-authority-declassify-vice-president/11065345002/


2 posted on 01/18/2023 6:26:19 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money)
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Really? I guess I missed that when reading the duties of the VP in the Constitution especially the part of being the commander in chief.


5 posted on 01/18/2023 6:29:51 AM PST by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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McClanahan, who also teaches at the George Washington University Law School, said that under a 2009 executive order signed by Obama, the vice president is included in a list of "original classification authorities," meaning Biden had the power declassify anything he classified.

The Washington Post also reported vice presidents have the authority to declassify anything they classified. The New York Times similarly reported that the vice president has the power to declassify, while noting the scope of that authority "has never been definitively tested."

Materials that could be classified include military plans, foreign government information or scientific, technological or economic matters relating to national security, according to the order.

"It is longstanding practice in the executive branch to treat the vice president as having the same amount of authority in that respect as the president unless the president explicitly says otherwise," McClanahan said.

If true, it raises the question if the documents in question were classified by Biden or someone else.

8 posted on 01/18/2023 6:31:18 AM PST by mykroar (what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how. - J0eStalin)
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Each Executive Order has a number for reference. No such number is given as proof of this claim of legality. This group of lawyers thinks we should believe them because they say so? Horse puckey. Prove your assertions.


9 posted on 01/18/2023 6:31:49 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Great minds drink alike...me and my baby havin' a hell of a night. - - BB King)
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He can declassify anything he classified. Just like Comey declassified those infamous memos that he had classified.

Anyone who has the power to classify, has the power to declassify. It is very specific people.

But the President can declassify anything.

10 posted on 01/18/2023 6:31:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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Wait until they tell us it’s O.K. for Biden to bring home documents so Hunter can sell top secrets to the Chinese.


12 posted on 01/18/2023 6:32:18 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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I hereby and Freepily CLASSIFY this thread.

Now, if any of you’ze freepers divulge ANY info from ANY reply herein, I’m gonna have to sic the FIB on you.


15 posted on 01/18/2023 6:37:14 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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Its ironic how everyone is now in the weeds of “declassification authority,” Did Biden have it, was there an executive order from Obama allowing it? What is its scope? etc etc.

And yet the the DOJ/FBI ignored any such debate and went full steam ahead to charge Trump with something/anything, to remove him from 2024 consideration.


16 posted on 01/18/2023 6:38:22 AM PST by PGR88
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VP Biden made no claim that he declassified anything, that I am aware of. Bot only that, he would have been only qualified to declassify his own classified documents, as I understand it.


18 posted on 01/18/2023 6:40:06 AM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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They must have done some exhaustive research to come up that. Wonder where their exhaustive research is regarding the Hunter laptop, Penn Center, Biden family wealth creation or corruption at the DOJ/FBI?

The very fact that the MSM is going to this length to find a way to justify his possession of classified documents is very telling. With this, they are basically admitting that Biden people stole and held on to classified documents.

I wonder if they’ll do exhaustive research into finding out what is in the classified documents an$ who had access to them - along with all the other questions . . .


20 posted on 01/18/2023 6:42:55 AM PST by MCSETots
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The executive order is here:

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information

I scanned the document with a “find” instruction. I found that the document authorized Vice President Biden to classify documents, but did NOT authorize him to declassi9fy documents.

Even if you were to make an argument that classification power implies declassification power, the executive order goes out of its way to separate classification authority from declassification authority, and specifies exactly who may declassify documents. The Vice President is not included in the people who may declassify documents.


22 posted on 01/18/2023 6:44:29 AM PST by nagant
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This is meaningless. All this is saying is that Biden can ONLY declassify anything that HE ALONE classified.

Democrat press trying to muddy the waters yet again


23 posted on 01/18/2023 6:44:30 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Vote Democrat and stay on the plantation!)
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So, if they say Biden can declassify documents and there’s no record of it, and they insist, anyway, then President Trump can do same. Right?


24 posted on 01/18/2023 6:46:00 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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They are left in the ridiculous position of arguing that the president as chief executive can not declassify anything, especially if his name is Trump, but a vice president can declassify everything.

The truth is, the vice president is (maybe) able to declassify documents that he classified in the first place.

Don’t be fooled, these people are all crazy, and lie as naturally as breathing.


25 posted on 01/18/2023 6:47:21 AM PST by Freedom4US
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Biden had the power to declassify anything he classified.

Ok. Was he the Original Classification Authority for these documents? Probably not.

Besides, carelessly handling documents is not the same as declassifying. For Biden or Trump.

28 posted on 01/18/2023 6:50:06 AM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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This is going to be their mantra for the next two weeks. As always, they will lie, cheat and steal to protect their man.


32 posted on 01/18/2023 6:53:58 AM PST by I want the USA back (News media are pond scum. My pronouns: Haha, heehee, hoho. )
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If any knows it would be Sudiksha Kochi. An “expert” on America. Sarc/ ROTFLMAO.


34 posted on 01/18/2023 6:59:32 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Spay and neuter your "migrants" and liberals.)
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Let’s have Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley weigh in on this.


35 posted on 01/18/2023 7:00:53 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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Scumbag Marxist RATS play buy different rules than everyone else.


36 posted on 01/18/2023 7:01:38 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Spay and neuter your "migrants" and liberals.)
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The Constutution is an undead document. It means whatever the Left animates it to mean as their need arises. It can even contradict itself when needed.


38 posted on 01/18/2023 7:05:19 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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