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Joe Biden signs bill axing rail-worker sick days plea before royals meeting
NY Post ^ | 12/02/2022 | Steve Nelson

Posted on 12/02/2022 8:48:07 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

The Republican senators (and DINO Joe Manchin) who voted down the sick leave bill did so safe in the knowledge it would be blamed on Biden.


21 posted on 12/02/2022 9:05:59 AM PST by Izzatso
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To: Alberta's Child

Please understand the railroad tycoons were in bed with the politicians in a previous time the late 1800’s for example.

The need for some order exists particularly in emergency situations but this started eons ago with the mixing of Big Government and Big Business and when railroads declined the government-taxpayers ended up holding the bag embodied in the law adopted 100 years ago.


22 posted on 12/02/2022 9:07:26 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: PIF
The railroads couldn't function if workers were allowed to call out sick on short notice.

Freight railroads operate today on precise schedules. If a locomotive engineer calls out sick, the train doesn't leave on type and the ripple effect through the whole system causes chaos. The only way around this would be to have the railroads schedule backup crews for every scheduled train -- which doubles the labor cost.

This is why the railroads have taken such a hard line against sick time in these negotiations.

23 posted on 12/02/2022 9:10:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Nextrush

This country was founded as an oligarchy, so it should come as no surprise that dominant industries were “in bed” with politicians throughout U.S. history.


24 posted on 12/02/2022 9:13:04 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: cgbg
They say “democracy”, I say “kleptocracy”.

Plutocracy. Pluto was the richest king, because he was the only king who never lost a subject.

25 posted on 12/02/2022 9:13:33 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Well, like the GOP is going to do anything for them.


26 posted on 12/02/2022 9:18:28 AM PST by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Exactly. Hope they’re happy with the guy they voted for.


27 posted on 12/02/2022 9:19:25 AM PST by uptowngirl
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To: Reno89519

Yep.

Corporations good, unions bad according to a lot of people, on here and elsewhere.


28 posted on 12/02/2022 9:19:34 AM PST by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It would be an easy win for GOP to come out in support of the Unions so of course they won’t do that
Dems are party of the non -working class


29 posted on 12/02/2022 9:24:12 AM PST by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: Alberta's Child

No, they only need a percentage of backup crews in reserve.

It’s the railroads’ equivalent of “lean manufacturing” and Just-In-time...no slack or allowance for error means things break down when everything doesn’t run precisely according to plan. Other industries (public transit especially) are having the same problem filling service now thanks to the vaccine mandates.

The railroads have nobody to blame for this but themselves.


30 posted on 12/02/2022 9:26:47 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress" )
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31 posted on 12/02/2022 9:27:42 AM PST by cranked
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To: Alberta's Child

Those are the realities.


32 posted on 12/02/2022 9:28:48 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
would have been an economic catastrophe at a very bad time on the calendar

So Joe, is there a good time on the calendar for an economic catastrophe? Just curious.

33 posted on 12/02/2022 9:29:00 AM PST by Avalon Memories (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. -- P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: Reno89519

It was never a free market. The act that allows the legislature to impose “work to rule” for railroads came over a century ago.


34 posted on 12/02/2022 9:29:39 AM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Alberta's Child

Think about what you just wrote. If an Engineer calls out sick the train doesn’t leave on schedule causing a ripple effect. I get that.

Railroads have deemed “backup crews” too expensive and have fought that. I get that too.

However, railroads INSISTING on no sick leave or sick leave only “planned” 30 days in advance would seem to intentionally set in place a SINGLE POINT FAILURE anytime anyone calls out sick. How is that a good plan for success?? I also assume railroads also say get sick twice get fired.


35 posted on 12/02/2022 9:30:11 AM PST by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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My understanding is that the railroads allow anyone to call out sick, but require the person calling out sick to make arrangements with his own replacement.

Personally, I think paid sick time is a ludicrous construct of a modern, affluent society.

This idea that a business should pay people even when they contribute ZERO productivity to the company's operations has no basis in any sound economic principles.

George Washington didn't have any sick days. I don't recall reading anything about the Ingalls family getting any paid time off in those Little House on the Prairie books, either.

36 posted on 12/02/2022 9:35:22 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Alberta's Child

Railroad workers get sick just like everyone else. Just because we need our goods on time doesn’t give them the ability to stay well all the time.


37 posted on 12/02/2022 9:38:14 AM PST by philippa
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To: OHPatriot
The railroads started implementing a points based attendance policy during COVID thanks to these downsizing firms like Bain Capital and McKinsey Consulting where you do get fired for missing too much time automatically regardless of circumstances.

This was a major issue that the Unions objected to, since COVID is over they want to go back to the way things were, the railroads don't want to have their workers removed from the precarity they're in.

If the railroads were deeply concerned about this they could have invested in hiring more workers instead of spending almost all their record profits in stock buybacks.

They don't have to worry because they know the government will back them to the point of having the National Guard shoot strikers like they always have.

38 posted on 12/02/2022 9:39:26 AM PST by Shadow44
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To: Recovering_Democrat

You’d think they’d learn after what happen to the coal mine workers…


39 posted on 12/02/2022 9:40:47 AM PST by dragonblustar (If you watch porn then you are a pedophile and a supporter of rape. Repent and be saved! )
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To: philippa
I get sick, too.

But I'm self-employed, so I don't get paid when I don't work. Cry me a river.

40 posted on 12/02/2022 9:54:38 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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