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Colorado Springs shooter’s non-binary claim won’t stop hate crime charges, legal experts say
Yahoo! News ^ | November 24, 2022 | By Namita Singh

Posted on 11/24/2022 6:51:56 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The Colorado Springs shooting suspect’s gender identity will not stop the authorities from bringing in hate crime charges against them, legal experts claim.

… The suspect’s gender identity is “not relevant," Neama Rahmani, president of West Coast Trial Lawyers and a former federal prosecutor, told Insider. "Obviously the defense will want to get it in, but it’s not a defense."

"It’s certainly something that the defense would try to use, but it’s not in and of itself a bar from hate crime charges depending on what the other evidence is," Brian Levin, professor of criminal justice at California State University, San Bernardino, was quoted as saying by the Insider.

"The notion that because someone might belong to a group does not mean that some ... dispute revolving around that group membership or issue would negate hate crime charges," he added.

Meanwhile, the court has ordered that the suspect be held in custody without bail.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aldrich; clubq; culturewar; homosexualagenda; perverts
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But why would it in the first place???


41 posted on 11/24/2022 7:35:40 AM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Called it on the 20th:
"This 'guy' is going to turn out to be a closet giant tranny incel who lived with his grandparents, EXACTLY like Salvador Ramos."

42 posted on 11/24/2022 7:37:45 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
"Then the only question that remains is...does Colorado have the death penalty? IIRC is does because the prosecutor agreed not to seek it a few years ago with that guy who murdered his pregnant wife and two daughters."

You might actually have 'remembered' it correctly, because it was only banned in CO in 2020, signed by their gay azz goobernor.

43 posted on 11/24/2022 7:39:34 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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‘Hate crime’ is just an elixir for the self righteous, virtue signaling, politically correct, pseudo good people…he murdered 5 people, dozens of witnesses, trial, conviction, and death penalty promptly…what’s the problem?…any violent crime against a person involves hate…does the motive really matter?…execute him twice, 3x, or more?…add 200 years to a 300 year sentence?…c’mon man


44 posted on 11/24/2022 7:40:06 AM PST by TnTnTn
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Supposedly, his dad was a heterosexual porno actor, and his mom was a white racist bigot. The guy himself was ultra overweight and was ultra ugly.


45 posted on 11/24/2022 7:41:31 AM PST by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

His father is a piece of work. He was worried that he was gay more than the fact he was a murderer yard. I’m a conservative Republican and I don’t want to get a kid, but he doesn’t mind a murder kid. something wrong with the whole family.

https://nypost.com/2022/11/24/colorado-shooter-anderson-lee-aldrichs-father-expresses-anti-gay-rhetoric-in-interview/


46 posted on 11/24/2022 7:46:33 AM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 democratic )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So, we assume “hate crime” because it was a f a g bar?

I despise this disgusting travesty of justice, tacking on extra punishment due to “hatred”.


47 posted on 11/24/2022 7:47:06 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMV)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Forgive for my ignorance. The guy is looking at at least five counts of murder and several more counts of attempted murder, and assault with a deadly weapon. How do ‘hate crime’ charges make anything legally worse for him? How many more ‘life-without parole’ sentences would he get?

Assuming he’s found guilty, he will never be a free man again.


48 posted on 11/24/2022 7:48:26 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The whole concept of “hate crime” is childish and goes against the principle of equal justice. It is a modern legal construct that is utter crap.


49 posted on 11/24/2022 7:55:06 AM PST by Dennis M.
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To: Regulator

Asking that question is a hate crime.


50 posted on 11/24/2022 7:55:13 AM PST by NativeSon ( *> <*)
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To: NativeSon

I beez sorrree

(not)


51 posted on 11/24/2022 7:57:38 AM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: real saxophonist

She peaks 100% on the crazy meter.


52 posted on 11/24/2022 8:06:59 AM PST by Shady (The #JihadJunta: "We are now a nation of Men, Not of Laws. You are not as equal as we are...")
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To: Regulator

Hate crime charge is being used as a political tool back and forth between Left and Right.

The important charge is murder and or the Felony crime charges that will be proven in court.


53 posted on 11/24/2022 8:08:54 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: EEGator
I would think 5 counts of 1st degree murder should suffice.

I agree, that should be enough. Are we going to pile on five years for a hate crime on top of the five life sentences he should get?

54 posted on 11/24/2022 8:10:36 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (I do not recognize Biden’s authority. (@FeistyFed on TS) 🐝)
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To: Not A Snowbird

Also, the attempted murder charges of anyone else shot and not killed.


55 posted on 11/24/2022 8:14:49 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Exactly. I’ve never understood the need to pile on a hate crime, unless you want to add time to somebody’s sentence. I think this guy is maxed out.


56 posted on 11/24/2022 8:22:36 AM PST by Not A Snowbird (I do not recognize Biden’s authority. (@FeistyFed on TS) 🐝)
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To: ealgeone

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NPaMLAow00Q


57 posted on 11/24/2022 8:28:37 AM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the MAGA hat don’t fit they must aquit.


58 posted on 11/24/2022 8:34:14 AM PST by bray (The Republic of Texas is available on Barnes and Noble )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It was relevant when it was believed he was not a member of the rainbow perversion squad.


59 posted on 11/24/2022 8:48:59 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He could declare himself TRANSINNOCENT.


60 posted on 11/24/2022 8:49:49 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Dumpster Fire Country.)
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