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I'm a British patriot and I'd never shirk a fight. But as we edge closer to nuclear war, why ARE we stoking conflict in Ukraine rather than trying to achieve peace, asks PETER HITCHENS
Daily Mail ^ | 9/24/22 | PETER HITCHENS

Posted on 09/25/2022 5:07:37 AM PDT by JonPreston

What is Britain’s interest in Ukraine?

Why are we shovelling weapons and equipment into that country, despite the fact that our national budget is stretched to bursting and our own armed forces have for many years been starved of money, men and kit?

If we were a proper open society, surely this question would be asked all the time. But it is not.

So I am asking it now, as the Ukraine war threatens to ignite the whole of Europe and has already brought us closer to actual nuclear warfare than we have ever been.

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To: JonPreston
What is Britain’s interest in Ukraine? Why are we shovelling weapons and equipment into that country

We have very few interests in Ukraine. It's all about Russia. Most Brits and most Democrats in the U.S. have an irrational fear and hatred towards Russians - some of it stems from the Cold War, long over 30 years ago. Left-wing Americans despise Russia for the religious revival and cultural reawakening that has taken place in the country since 1991 (they liked it when the USSR was aethiest!) It's totally worth risking nuclear war if we stick it to the man.

21 posted on 09/25/2022 5:23:49 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: JonPreston

Your extrapolation towards a nuclear asymptote is letting fear control over reason

or maybe using fear alone to make your point


22 posted on 09/25/2022 5:24:58 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Leftists like Hillary and Obama LOVED Russia when they were selling out America’s uranium supply to Putin.


23 posted on 09/25/2022 5:25:43 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: bert

Does working toward peace make you angry?


24 posted on 09/25/2022 5:26:15 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: imabadboy99

let’s not forget that this war is all about protecting Biden and the deep state’s kickbacks, money laundering etc. playground in Ukraine.


25 posted on 09/25/2022 5:26:56 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: 55Ford
Nuclear War is a Bugaboo

Please restate your thought in clear, concise English.

26 posted on 09/25/2022 5:28:56 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

You must remember, if you ever actually knew, that peace is the interval between wars.

The total destruction of Russia that is in progress is bringing peace by withering Mother Russia away into a toothless old crone

Presently, it is the world against Russia. Except of course for you and the other fear mongers here


27 posted on 09/25/2022 5:30:53 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: imabadboy99
let’s not forget that this war is all about protecting Biden and the deep state’s kickbacks, money laundering etc. playground in Ukraine.

Just as the raid on Mar-a-Lago is about reclaiming the #RussianHoax documents, the war in Ukraine is about covering the tracks of the Biden crime family.

28 posted on 09/25/2022 5:31:04 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

“why ARE we stoking conflict in Ukraine rather than trying to achieve peace”
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Many other questions not being asked....such as WHY are our leaders (both parties) allowing the invasion of our southern border?

These decisions are not happening by accident or incompetence, they are deliberate.

We the people will pay the terrible price.


29 posted on 09/25/2022 5:31:25 AM PDT by xenia ( “Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell)
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To: bert
The total destruction of Russia that is in progress is bringing peace

Orwell said it best; "WAR IS PEACE"

30 posted on 09/25/2022 5:32:19 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

See..... I told you


31 posted on 09/25/2022 5:34:44 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

I think its more than that. Europe is energy poor. Russia has what they need and want. They may be the most energy rich nation on the planet.


32 posted on 09/25/2022 5:36:02 AM PDT by xenia ( “Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell)
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To: bert

“Presently, it is the world against Russia.”

BREAKING NEWS!!! There’s more to the world than just the Globalist-controlled West. There’s also the other 80% of the world’s population, starting with China and India, that are NOT imposing sanctions on Russia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War


33 posted on 09/25/2022 5:36:16 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 43 degrees)
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To: xenia

you nailed it. If they were patriots who cared about America they’d be stopping the invasion on our southern border instead of worrying about the borders in Ukraine on the other side of the world. Until they close our border, they have zero credibility in their neocon schemes around the world.


34 posted on 09/25/2022 5:37:34 AM PDT by imabadboy99
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To: BobL

FYI...... Yesterday the Chinese foreign minister came out for Ukraine


35 posted on 09/25/2022 5:40:04 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: bert
The total destruction of Russia that is in progress is bringing peace by withering Mother Russia away into a toothless old crone

Because Russia spent the last twenty years leaving a trail of destruction and upended countries across the Middle East.

Oh, wait. That was us. The peace-loving and morally superior country.

36 posted on 09/25/2022 5:40:59 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("Evil people always support each other; that is their chief strength." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn)
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To: JonPreston

Joe Bidens wallet.


37 posted on 09/25/2022 5:41:31 AM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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My SIL who is a Never Trumper and die hard Democrat hated Trump because he lies, will ruin the country and get us into a war. All of these things, Biden has done. I doubt she has ears to hear or eyes to see the destruction Biden and the Deep State have done. Their hatred for Trump obscures all rationality.


38 posted on 09/25/2022 5:44:18 AM PDT by BipolarBob (JBiden - For the unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death. )
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To: xenia

What has been shown is that the strings attached to the Russian gas and oil are unacceptable.

Just across the Mediterranean is the untold energy in the GCC states. Russia is in Syria sole to prevent the proposed pipelines across that desert nothingness to Europe. Now that Russia is getting it’s ass kicked, the pipelines can be completed and Russia is left holding an empty bag.


39 posted on 09/25/2022 5:48:21 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: Captain Walker

It is fruit basket turnover. With the formation of the GCC, the Abram accords, the Negev Summit and trade and diplomacy between the Arabs and Israel, there is serious progress.

You are trying to play a game that has been over for a year or two


40 posted on 09/25/2022 5:51:20 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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