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Putin can call up all the troops he wants, but Russia can’t train or support them
Clinton News Network ^ | 22-SEP-2022 | Brad Lendon

Posted on 09/24/2022 7:56:10 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

Vladimir Putin can call up all the troops he wants, but Russia has no way of getting those new troops the training and weapons they need to fight in Ukraine any time soon.

With his invasion of Ukraine faltering badly, the Russian President on Wednesday announced the immediate “partial mobilization” of Russian citizens. Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said on Russian television that the country will call up 300,000 reservists.

If they end up facing Ukrainian guns on the front lines, they are likely to become the newest casualties in the invasion Putin started more than seven months ago and that has seen the Russian military fail at almost every aspect of modern war.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: ought-six; Kevmo; PIF; UMCRevMom@aol.com; SpeedyInTexas; marcusmaximus; dennisw; familyop; ...

From reports provided here at FR, it seems the US has sent a lot of LNG to Europe. Several weeks ago, one comment said that Germany had 85% of their terget for November already. Also, on LNG producer in Texas is due to be back on line in a few weeks. Anyone have more info?


141 posted on 09/24/2022 12:26:02 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question authority! .)
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To: Skywise

I wonder where he will get trainers from?

He sent all the trainers and elite troops to Ukraine in February and March and many were killed or injured.

And he’s run out of weapons as well


142 posted on 09/24/2022 12:27:34 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: delta7

India’s Modi told Putin that the war was q mistake.

And Putin said he addressed Beijing’s concerns about the war.


143 posted on 09/24/2022 12:28:53 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: kiryandil

Nope, they aren’t trained. The ruskies don’t have refresher training like the finns or swiss.

This might be the perfect time for Finland to get back Karelia, chinauti get back vladivostok, Mongolia Buryatia etc


144 posted on 09/24/2022 12:30:53 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

LOL!


145 posted on 09/24/2022 12:34:07 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ought-six

And what does his serving have to do with what he posted?

I didn’t serve as well, and I feel the same way he does.

Do you support the crap that the Biden Administration has imposed on the military?

Did you misread his original post?

Or did you make a mistake and uncover who you really are?


146 posted on 09/24/2022 12:44:14 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Cronos

India’s Modi told Putin that the war was q mistake.
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Sure, but India went on record as not supporting Biden’s sanctions, is buying Russian oil at a discount, and has been loading up on Russian arms for years. He knows which side his bread is buttered on….otherwise, why did he just participate in joint Russian/ Indian war games? …( and China to).

https://greatgameindia.com/india-russian-war-games/

White House Alarmed At India Joining Massive Russian War Games
…. New Delhi is participating in the Vostok 2022 war games hosted by Moscow from September 1-7. According to the Russian Defense Ministry, 50,000 troops and 5,000 weapons units, including 140 aircraft and 60 warships partake in the drills. Soldiers from China, Laos, Mongolia, Nicaragua, Syria, and Tajikistan are also joining the exercises that will stretch into the Sea of Japan…”

Betcha western MSM has “ overlooked” the massive anti West war games, keep in mind Russia’s huge military participation and their troops in Syria are going strong all the while fighting the Ukies ( with one hand tied behind their back)…..no Johnny, Russia is not experiencing a troop shortage, no matter what western MSM claims….they are only getting started.


147 posted on 09/24/2022 12:45:50 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Cronos
Nope, they aren’t trained.

Who to believe?

An anonymous dude or dudette on FR, or Shoigu?

Ooooh, tough choice.

148 posted on 09/24/2022 12:46:05 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: ought-six

So when have you called the Ukranian Propaganda?

When have you stated clearly and vociferously the multitude of propaganda coming from the leftwing press?


149 posted on 09/24/2022 12:47:58 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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Republicans WON’T Fund Ukraine War! Dem Senator Threatens

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4095771/posts


150 posted on 09/24/2022 1:14:12 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Justa

From a contact in Russia:
On mobilization in Russia

One of my friends got mobilized recently. He’s a mobile gamedev and a conscientious objector. So he tried to flee his city (Petrozavodsk) and drove to the nearest border (of Kazakhstan) but the seemingly endless traffic jam made him return in despair.

That’s how they caught him and transported to the nearest voenkomat. He couldn’t believe his eyes. There was a WW2 veteran standing in line as a volunteer. Soldiers were given out vatniks sheathed in camo print. Boots with so many holes that they looked like crocs and kits with personal hygiene items that included condoms. Yes, condoms. A Russian analogue of Durex - Gusarskiye so naturally they were also peppered w/ holes - a point of hearty laughter of everyone involved

They were to be transported in cargo section of an old Soviet plane to Ukraine.

They were allowed to “relax” for a few hours before that - i.e get drunk/high out of their minds and listen to the instructions of the Politruk who riled them up by talking about beauty of the Ukrainian woman and prosperity of the average household.

The tattered drunks of all ages were all ears. “Listen up, scum. You’re about to fly first class to a western democracy. So do what you do best: destroy their livelihoods and make them pay for being better than us. We will defile their land because we can. First and foremost, we are Eurasianists. We’ve learned from the best: Mongols, fascists and communists. You don’t need any training - it’s in your blood. No need for fancy gear either. The strongest will survive and bring his enemies to heel” as my friend later recalled speech.

So obviously he was looking for a way to escape this. He stood up and said “I’m gay”. A crazed mob jumped him and beat him bloody. But he smiled the whole time, ignoring broken ribs and bruises. Nevertheless he persisted. He’s going to prison for life for his orientation instead.

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1573720852004208645


151 posted on 09/24/2022 1:16:03 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Justa

“When properly motivated and led Slavs are excellent fighters. When not they are very poor. Advantage Ukraine.”

Ukrainians are also Slavs, so this statement doesn’t really make sense.


152 posted on 09/24/2022 2:00:20 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Kazan
Donbass - Referendum Moments!!! (Lugansk, LNR - today!! )

So, is Putin, like Hitler, still batting 1.000 in plebiscites?

153 posted on 09/24/2022 2:11:18 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: SpeedyInTexas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4kQvkvGi9M


154 posted on 09/24/2022 2:16:07 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: SoConPubbie

“So when have you called the Ukranian Propaganda? When have you stated clearly and vociferously the multitude of propaganda coming from the leftwing press?”

Read my posts, Sparky. You’ll see that I have said that both sides practice propaganda, and even that the Russians are better at it than the Ukrainians.


155 posted on 09/24/2022 2:17:05 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: kiryandil

“You angry today, forgettin’ bro?”

You don’t know sarcasm when it is right in front of you. I didn’t forget; I know you never served.


156 posted on 09/24/2022 2:18:48 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: SpeedyInTexas

According to the Russian troll farm here, Russia is winning everywhere. So, Russia doesn’t need any new troops. That’s all fake news according to them.


157 posted on 09/24/2022 2:18:53 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The DNA is pretty much the same, but nobody cares about making sense lately.


158 posted on 09/24/2022 2:19:30 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Kazan
Hence, every time the Western leaders defend the territorial integrity of Ukraine, they reaffirm the immoral outcome of the Yalta conference. Western Ukraine does not belong to the Kiev regime, just as Eastern Ukraine is not Ukraine.

Hey, can anyone play this game, where we kill hundreds of thousands, or millions, to redraw the lines on the map to approximate some previous map that they prefer to current one? Should we play it in the United States, and start killing each other to recreate old lines on maps?


159 posted on 09/24/2022 2:31:02 PM PDT by Pilsner
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To: SoConPubbie; kiryandil

“And what does his serving have to do with what he posted?”

It seems those with no military experience are the loudest critics when it comes to military matters.

He regularly posts criticisms of Ukrainian movements and advancements, yet says an obvious rout or defeat of Russian forces is actually some brilliant chess move, or some similar description. It’s one thing to cheer for one side or the other, but don’t criticize tactical moves unless you have a clue as to what the forces are actually doing, and why they are doing it.

And the really childish name-calling and innuendoes are clearly his attempt to distract from his ignorance. That is fourth-grade stuff. Call someone a moron, that’s fine; call someone clueless, that’s fine. But some of his stuff is laughably juvenile. I mean, grow up, Kiryandil.

“I didn’t serve as well, and I feel the same way he does.”

But, I don’t recall you waxing prolific about tactics. Maybe I missed them, if you have.

“Do you support the crap that the Biden Administration has imposed on the military?”

Absolutely not. But, nice try to change the subject. In any event, I’ve been reading his posts for months; so his history is well-documented.

“Or did you make a mistake and uncover who you really are?”

Oh, I know who I am.


160 posted on 09/24/2022 2:40:08 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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