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Escalation? Putin Orders Troop Mobilization, “Not Bluffing” About Nukes?
Independent Sentinel ^ | By M Dowling -September 21, 20220

Posted on 09/21/2022 7:31:23 AM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 09/21/2022 7:31:23 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Translation: Putin wants natural gas prices even higher.


2 posted on 09/21/2022 7:33:32 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Tell It Right

You have to take him seriously. Look nothing works in Russia. An accident will trigger something really big. A rogue General or the threat of losing it all is all it takes.


3 posted on 09/21/2022 7:35:23 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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If this is a harsh winter, and europe rebuilds nukes, and coal, and natural gas, someday we will thank Putin for single handedly magically ending Gorebull Warming by quietly sending it down the memory hole


4 posted on 09/21/2022 7:37:15 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: Red Badger

Biden Vs. Putin

Who’d a thunk it.


5 posted on 09/21/2022 7:37:19 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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Great, we have a psychotic maniac leading Russia and a braindead idiot with a chip on his shoulder running the US. What could possibly go wrong other than a full fledged nuclear war and the devastation of half the world population?
6 posted on 09/21/2022 7:37:47 AM PDT by Dave911
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Nuclear war? ...and me in the middle of fermenting my beautiful pepper crop...it figures.


7 posted on 09/21/2022 7:38:23 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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Not our circus.

Not our monkeys.


8 posted on 09/21/2022 7:43:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Vlad, you thought you would have Kiev conquered by the end of February, and you have proven is your Russian Army can get rolled by an army led by a comedian.


9 posted on 09/21/2022 7:43:43 AM PDT by Round Earther
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SO many people I know are cheering for Russia to get destroyed. IMO, Russia will absolutely NOT let that happen without taking down everyone else too. Which means using the nukes. Personally, I don’t want to be nuked because we stuck our nose in a long standing dispute that wasn’t ours anyway. I see no way Russia walks or runs away from this.


10 posted on 09/21/2022 7:45:01 AM PDT by GrumpyOldGuy
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Here is the actual text of what Putin said. We should not accept the MSM spin.

The subject of my speech is the situation in Donbass and the course of the military special operation after its liberation from the neo-Nazi regime that seized power in Ukraine in 2014 with an armed coup (…)

It will be about the necessary, urgent steps to protect the sovereignty, security and territorial integrity of Russia, about supporting the desire and will of our compatriots to determine their own future, and about the aggressive policies of some Western elites who try by any means necessary to maintain their supremacy, and to this end try to block and suppress any sovereign, independent centers of development, in order to continue to crudely impose their will on other countries and peoples and implant their pseudo-values.

The aim of this West is to weaken, divide and ultimately destroy our country.

They are already saying outright that they managed to split the Soviet Union in 1991 and that now is the time for Russia itself to disintegrate into a multitude of regions and territories that are deadly enemies with one another.

(...)

Weaponizing total Russophobia, they have for decades purposefully incited hatred of Russia, particularly in Ukraine, for which they destined the fate of an anti-Russian beachhead.

And they turned the Ukrainian people into cannon fodder and drove them to war with our country.

(...)

Before hostilities began, more than seven and a half million people lived in the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics, as well as in the Zaporizhia and Kherson regions.

Many of them were forced to become refugees and leave their homes.

Those who remained - some five million people - now face constant artillery and rocket attacks from neo-Nazi militants.

They attack hospitals and schools and carry out terrorist attacks against civilians.

We have no moral right to turn those close to us over to the executioners to be torn apart.

We cannot ignore their sincere desire to choose their own destiny.

The parliaments of the People’s Republics of Donbass and the civil-military administrations of the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions have decided to hold referendums on the future of these regions.

And they turned to us, to Russia, with a request to support such a move.

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In this situation, I consider it necessary to take the following decision, which is fully responsive to the threats we face: In order to defend our homeland, its sovereignty and territorial integrity, and the security of our people and that of the population in To ensure the liberated areas, I consider it necessary to support the proposal of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff to introduce partial mobilization in the Russian Federation.

I repeat once again: we are specifically talking about partial mobilization, that is, only citizens who are currently in reserve are called up for military service, primarily those who have served in the ranks of the armed forces and through certain military ones Have specialist knowledge and relevant experience.

(...)

With its aggressive anti-Russian policy, the West has crossed all borders.

We constantly hear threats against our country, our people.

Some irresponsible politicians in the West are not only talking about plans to supply Ukraine with long-range offensive weapons - systems that would enable attacks in Crimea and other regions of Russia (...)

Washington, London and Brussels are directly urging Kyiv to transfer military operations to our territory.

They no longer hide and talk about defeating Russia by any means on the battlefield.

This is to be followed by the withdrawal of political, economic, cultural and in general any kind of sovereignty and the complete plundering of our country.

Nuclear blackmail has also now begun.

I am speaking not only of the Western-sponsored shelling of the Zaporizhia nuclear power plant, which poses a threat of nuclear catastrophe, but also of the statements made by some senior officials of leading NATO countries on whether it is possible and permissible to use weapons of mass destruction - nuclear weapons - against Russia.

I would like to remind those who dare to make such statements about Russia that our country also has various means of destruction, some of which are more advanced than those of the NATO countries.

Of course, if the territorial integrity of our country is threatened, we will use all means at our disposal to defend Russia and our people.

This is not a bluff.

The citizens of Russia can rest assured that the territorial integrity of our homeland, our independence and our freedom, I reiterate, will be safeguarded with all the means at our disposal.

And those who are trying to blackmail us with nuclear weapons need to know that the compass rose can turn in their direction, too.

It is in our historical tradition, in the destiny of our people, that we stop those who strive for world domination, who threaten to dismember and enslave our fatherland, our homeland.

We’re going to do that now - and that’s how it’s going to be.

I believe in your support.«


11 posted on 09/21/2022 7:46:21 AM PDT by kabar
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“Kiev has violated all possible agreements… The point of no return in the negotiation process has long passed,”

Good, then there’s no need for Ukraine to listen to any of the Putinistas who say Ukraine should negotiate, since Russia has ruled that out.


12 posted on 09/21/2022 7:46:29 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Was he bluffing about Ukraine? He reached the point of no return the day he invaded. I think incorporating the areas scheduled for the plebiscites is the minimum Putin must accomplish strategically and politically. Once he has his new borders and defenses set, it will be extremely hard to dislodge him. It will take not only the best equipment NATO has but many NATO troops as well. Incredibly, the best case “ending” scenario for this is NATO and Russia falling back into another generational Cold War with Checkpoint Charley stretching from Turkey to the Arctic Circle.


13 posted on 09/21/2022 7:47:06 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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“You have to take him seriously. Look nothing works in Russia. An accident will trigger something really big. A rogue General or the threat of losing it all is all it takes.”

I think he’s bluffing. But I also think that, if he’s not, he’s going to get some serious pushback from some Russian generals, who may just remove him. Those generals know that if Russia initiates the use of nukes, Russia will cease to exist. Putin may be suicidal, but I doubt the Russian generals are.


14 posted on 09/21/2022 7:48:12 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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“SO many people I know are cheering for Russia to get destroyed. IMO, Russia will absolutely NOT let that happen without taking down everyone else too.”

Except nukes means Russia is destroyed even more certainly than if they lose in Ukraine. The best solution for them is still for Russia to just go back to Russia where they belong.


15 posted on 09/21/2022 7:50:50 AM PDT by Boogieman
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“SO many people I know are cheering for Russia to get destroyed.”

For Russia to be destroyed, or for Russia to be pushed out of Ukraine? There is a huge difference. I personally know no one who wishes the destruction of Russia.


16 posted on 09/21/2022 7:51:05 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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“SO many people I know are cheering for Russia to get destroyed.”

Then what? If history has taught us anything. One baddie always gets replaced by another. Who benefits the most from a weakened Russia? I say, Turkey and China. Turkey would then have a free hand to fulfill Erdogan's dream of rebuilding The Ottoman Empire.

17 posted on 09/21/2022 7:52:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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18 posted on 09/21/2022 7:54:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Boogieman

“Good, then there’s no need for Ukraine to listen to any of the Putinistas who say Ukraine should negotiate, since Russia has ruled that out.”

Yup. This is going to get interesting.


19 posted on 09/21/2022 7:54:04 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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“The best solution for them is still for Russia to just go back to Russia where they belong.”

Yup.


20 posted on 09/21/2022 7:55:41 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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