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Massachusetts, Washington State Adopt California’s 2035 Ban on Gas Powered Vehicles
California Globe ^ | August 27, 2022 | Evan Symon

Posted on 08/27/2022 6:17:52 AM PDT by artichokegrower

Both Massachusetts and Washington state leaders announced on Friday that they would be adopting California’s new ban on the sale of gas powered vehicles by 2035, beginning a shift that may encompass more states in the coming months.

(Excerpt) Read more at californiaglobe.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California; US: Massachusetts; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: automotive; california; ecoterrorism; ecoterrorists; elonmusk; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; massachusetts; tesla; washington
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To: Poison Pill

Wait,
WHAT?
.


21 posted on 08/27/2022 6:35:19 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: artichokegrower

For some reason I can’t help but think of Cubanos carefully preserving their 50’s era American cars after all the intervening decades.


22 posted on 08/27/2022 6:36:23 AM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: chopperk

My son drives a Peterbilt. Effective range of an EV semi is probably only 100 miles.

I drove 700 miles yesterday pulling a trailer. Almost four tanks of gas. Total fillip time was about 15 minutes.

EV is a stupid idea.


23 posted on 08/27/2022 6:37:46 AM PDT by cyclotic (Follow 1776Restorationmovement.com fighting for our Constitution. @1776RM on Truth)
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To: napscoordinator

Idaho could always invade Washington and take it by force.


24 posted on 08/27/2022 6:39:08 AM PDT by cyclotic (Follow 1776Restorationmovement.com fighting for our Constitution. @1776RM on Truth)
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To: ridesthemiles

No, every house, apartment, building will not have charging stations. “Everyone” as in all those who have vehicles today, will NOT have a car.

As Neil Oliver astutely states:

Take the energy crisis: If you’ve felt the blood drain from your face at the prospect of bills rising from hundreds to several thousands of pounds while reading about energy companies doubling their profits overnight while being commanded to subsidize so-called renewables that are anything but Green while listening to this politician or that renew their vows to the ruinous fantasies of Net Zero and Agenda 2030 while knowing that the electricity for electric cars comes, in the main and most reliably, from fossil fuels. If you can’t make sense of it all and just know that it adds up to a future in which you might have to choose between eating and heating, then treat yourself to the gift of understanding that the powers that be fully intend that we should have less heat and less fuel and that in the planned future only the rich will have cars anyway.

The plan is not to fix it. The plan is to break it, and leave it broken.

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We still have an old barn & pastures .... horses might be coming back in the future. Unfortunately, we sold our old buggy .... only half joking here .....


25 posted on 08/27/2022 6:39:24 AM PDT by Qiviut (“Hell is empty and all the Devils are Here.” [Shakespeare, The Tempest])
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To: joethedrummer

> Completely childish and idiotic. <

Yep. And it’s all being done based on the word of of a fraud (Al Gore) and a little girl (Greta Thunberg).


26 posted on 08/27/2022 6:39:42 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: artichokegrower

Monkey see, monkey do.


27 posted on 08/27/2022 6:40:21 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Poison Pill
We can transition to EV's but it has to happen organically. Forced by law with lack of infrastructure to support it won't work.


28 posted on 08/27/2022 6:41:53 AM PDT by Boomer ( George Orwell: “During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.” )
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To: MrRelevant

In Massachusetts every day will be like the Blizzard of 1978—cars stranded everywhere:

https://bdc2020.o0bc.com/news/history/2018/01/29/photos-blizzard-1978/


29 posted on 08/27/2022 6:42:18 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: BlueStateRightist
> What is the plan to provide the necessary electricity for all these vehicles? <

Fortunately for the world, noted electrical engineer AOC has already solved that problem.


30 posted on 08/27/2022 6:43:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: artichokegrower

Kathy Hochul must be asleep.


31 posted on 08/27/2022 6:43:54 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: artichokegrower

Holding each other’s green dream hands while they commit suicide.


32 posted on 08/27/2022 6:45:29 AM PDT by blackdog (Cooler King Joe, killing a winning nation every day. )
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To: Poison Pill; FLT-bird; Big Red Badger; Boomer
So is the belief that we can continue to increase the rate of oil extraction to keep up with the yearly 3-4% GDP growth we all want.

Which law of physics informs that statement?

33 posted on 08/27/2022 6:46:59 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spiritI)
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To: Poison Pill

We’re not just powered by oil. We have abundant natural gas and coal, plus safe nukes that can be built quickly if standardized designs can be approved, and can still use wind and solar as supplements along with water and geothermal. Plus we can and should continue to increase the efficiency of everything that consumes energy if any kind. There is NO energy shortage, except that willfully created by freedom-hating lawmakers and bureaucrats.


34 posted on 08/27/2022 6:56:09 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: artichokegrower

I would love to know what provision in the Constitution gives states the authority to do this.


35 posted on 08/27/2022 6:57:39 AM PDT by Ancesthntr (“The right to buy weapons is the right to be free.” ― A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: FLT-bird

We are way way closer to the last net enegery positive barrel of oil than we are to the first. The growth rate of extraction has been shrinking for decades. We will get to zero growth rate of extraction much sooner than people think. When that happens we lose most of our modern world. When people want to talk about making a transition, which will mean using less stuff and less energy, they always get demonized.


36 posted on 08/27/2022 6:59:14 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: artichokegrower
Washington's government does what Newsom the Vile tells them they must do.

Being the same weak sisters, Oregon's and Nevada's governments will soon do the same.

37 posted on 08/27/2022 7:01:53 AM PDT by glennaro (Live life unbullied and unafraid. Choose to ignore or fight the irrationality that surrounds you.)
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To: artichokegrower

Their fantasy is that circa 2040 their EVs will be running on solar and wind power, hydro, and maybe nuclear power. Burning fossil fuels will be out. When the cruel truth is that solar and wind always need base load backups for days when the sun don’t shine and the wind don’t blow. These backups are natural gas aka fossil fuels releasing CO2.

So really all solar and wind installations need a second parallel expenditure on fossil fuel powered power plants for back up.

https://theconversation.com/baseload-power-is-a-myth-even-intermittent-renewables-will-work-13210


38 posted on 08/27/2022 7:04:00 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: artichokegrower

The market, sans tax breaks, should be left alone. Electrics might make sense for some people, but their downsides are many. This “shift” is not logical. The ban is not accompanied by a plan to provide either the grid or the source power necessary. They know the outcome will be economic chaos, and that middle and lower income families will be hardest hit. They don’t care. So long as they can zip around in their $100K Virtue Signal GT Sport Wagon without having to mix with lessers on the highway, it’s all good. Oh, but let’s not talk about their frequent jet-based vacations. Malicious Idiotic Bastards.


39 posted on 08/27/2022 7:04:22 AM PDT by drwoof
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To: Ancesthntr
We’re not just powered by oil.

The lifeblood of our modern world is oil

We have abundant natural gas and coal, plus safe nukes

If world GDP grows 3% yearly for 30 more years, we will use more energy than we have since the dawn of humanity.

40 posted on 08/27/2022 7:11:59 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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