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Daughter of Putin ally Alexander Dugin killed in car bomb in Moscow – reports
The Grauniad ^ | 20 August 2022 | Martin Farrer

Posted on 08/20/2022 11:49:17 PM PDT by Apparatchik

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(another article on this subject)


81 posted on 08/21/2022 2:15:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Not directing this at you.

And he knows this how?

Guys on our side mean well, but at times they don’t
contribute to the sense we don’t pop off on things
we have no way of knowing about.


82 posted on 08/21/2022 3:53:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: libh8er

Yeah, I admit that would push my limits.

She didn’t hold power and I don’t like to see someone who
doesn’t have responsibility for things that happen or not,
to be held accountable for things that happen.

I appreciate you mentioning that. It does broaden my
understanding.


83 posted on 08/21/2022 3:56:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: NorseViking

I’m referencing the families who have lost son(s) in this
war. They may see it as an unjust war and want to strike
out at anyone they can get access to.

They are unhappy with war for directly impacting their
family.

I wasn’t addressing pacifists.


84 posted on 08/21/2022 4:02:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Interesting thoughts...

I hadn’t given that consideration.

I honestly don’t know if Russia’s current leaders are that
evil. They may be. I just don’t have an opinion.


85 posted on 08/21/2022 4:05:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: nuconvert

I wouldn’t argue with that at all.

It will be interesting what take Russia has on it.

They may have already tipped their hand. I’m responding
without reading contemporary news from today.

I was reticent to assess blame on Zelensky until it was
proven he did have a hand in this. For that reason I
hesitated to accept that his family needed to hide.

If it is found that a radical group in Russia has taken
ownership of the act, that should clear the need to go
after Zelensky’s family.

I don’t see it enhancing Zelensky’s war situation, so it
really doesn’t make sense to me.


86 posted on 08/21/2022 4:09:59 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Thanks. In the one photo I saw, she looked pretty rough.

If she was out running her mouth and making people angry,
some friend of the Ukraine MAY HAVE targeted her.

I just didn’t think Zelensky would target here.


87 posted on 08/21/2022 4:13:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Rockingham

Thanks for the mention. That makes sense.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.


88 posted on 08/21/2022 4:14:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Roccus

Hilarious...

Nice catch...


89 posted on 08/21/2022 4:17:55 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: gleeaikin; Roccus

Gleeaikin, I agree, but I will say, that video was on topic
and pretty funny.


90 posted on 08/21/2022 4:22:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Then they should bomb the US and British Embassies or not? Why the obscure political scientist? Was anyone in the US blowing Wall Street after losing sons during WWII? After all, it was “unjust” war because of the oil embargo imposed on Japan.


91 posted on 08/21/2022 6:14:30 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: NorseViking

The U. S. isn’t Russia, and we haven’t done some of the things
that are/were done in Russia or the old USSR. Not trying to be
anti-Russia. It’s just a matter of record.


92 posted on 08/21/2022 6:47:37 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: marcusmaximus; dennisw; DoughtyOne; UMCRevMom@aol.com; ought-six; familyop; vladimir998; ...

Here is notification of the official Russian bombing investigation.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/21/russia-launches-murder-investigation-after-car-bomb-kills-daughter-of-key-putin-ally.html

Alexander “Dugin was first sanctioned by the United States in 2015 and was the leader of the Eurasian Youth Union, recruiting combatants to fight on behalf of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic, the U.S. Treasury said in a news release last week. His daughter Dugina was the chief editor of the “United World International” website that suggested Ukraine would “perish” if admitted to NATO, and was also sanctioned by the U.S. Treasury in March.

The U.K. Government also called her a “frequent and high-profile contributor of disinformation related to Ukraine” when it sanctioned her in July. “Dugina has therefore provided support for and promoted policies or actions which destabilise Ukraine or undermine or threaten the territorial integrity, sovereignty or independence of Ukraine,” it said in a statement.”

So both father and daughter had been sanctioned by the US, the UK, and presumably by Ukraine. Anyone of those could have hired a contract, or Russians who have had family murdered or killed in useless fighting could also have a good reason. I wonder about relatives of some of those super wealthy Russians who committed suicide/were murdered(?) along with their families this past year. Three wives and 3 children were brutally murdered with knife and axe. You can buy a lot of high tech murder with the kind of money some of these victims had. My guess is that the probability it was Ukraine is relatively low, given the other enemies.


93 posted on 08/21/2022 8:18:39 PM PDT by gleeaikin (pQuestion authority)
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To: DoughtyOne; Roccus; UMCRevMom@aol.com; marcusmaximus; All

Glad you liked it, but there were 3 videos, which one? After seeing all the tit for tat informationless back and forth in this thread, I was hoping to elevate the discourse.


94 posted on 08/21/2022 8:26:50 PM PDT by gleeaikin (pQuestion authority)
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To: DoughtyOne
The U. S. isn’t Russia, and we haven’t done some of the things that are/were done in Russia or the old USSR.

Give it a decade.

95 posted on 08/21/2022 8:27:44 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep, the US did worse. The Russians understand the motive behind the Ukrainian war, Iraq war was totally under a false pretext


96 posted on 08/21/2022 10:05:01 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: gleeaikin

The one where the mobster sends his wife out to start the car.

I took it as a joke. Must have been a clip from a movie.


97 posted on 08/22/2022 1:38:55 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Lazamataz

Okay, then we agree to address it in a decade.


98 posted on 08/22/2022 1:44:00 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: NorseViking

Actually it wasn’t, but I’m not going to spend another decade explaining it to folks.


99 posted on 08/22/2022 1:53:13 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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