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He simply cannot be trusted:' World leaders slam Putin's attack on Odesa following sea corridor deal
MSN ^ | July 2022 | Amanda Macias

Posted on 07/23/2022 12:56:57 PM PDT by dennisw

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To: JonPreston
"Names please, and don't bother listing members of Biden's Liberal World Order."

Biden is nearly irrelevant in matters of foreign policy and war. We're still far better off and have far more freedoms than the slaves suffering under the new evil axis.

21 posted on 07/23/2022 1:27:45 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: dennisw

Nothing trustworthy about the so-called world leaders — other than their adherence to the socialist/LGBT agenda. They’re not leading the MAGA soldiers.


22 posted on 07/23/2022 1:27:52 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: JonPreston

The Russians are mongols. They are Slavs and a lot of them used to be
ruled by ancient Byzantium. From Genghis Kahn to Stalin. they have
not changed. They never will and we will never learn, at least , not until
it is too late.

Russia knows what it wants. World domination .And she is laying her plans
accordingly. We, on the other hand, and England, and france to a lesser extent. don’t know what we want and get less than nothing as the result.

Let’s keep our boots polished bayonets sharpened,and present a picture
of force and strength to the Russians. This is the only language that they understand and respect. If you fail to do this , then I would like to say that we have had a victory over the Germans, and have disarmed them,but we have lost the war.

George S. Patton


23 posted on 07/23/2022 1:30:07 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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"On June 7, 1945, Patton was talking about the Soviet Union. That dissolved in 1991."

Until Russia recently started to revert to its old policies. Russians don't have nearly the freedoms that we have. By Russian law, a joke about a government official or ministry can land a Russian citizen in prison for 15 years.

24 posted on 07/23/2022 1:30:13 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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“...They renege on most agreements....”

That may be true. I just don’t know. But I do know who reneged on the Minsk Agreements and it wasn’t Russia.

I have heard some persons very knowledgeable on these matters state it is the West’s failure to honor the Minsk Agreement that triggered Putin’s attack.


25 posted on 07/23/2022 1:32:57 PM PDT by elpadre (W )
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Patton was obviously talking about a culture that was cemented by the policies of the USSR—a culture that didn’t give itself long enough to enjoy western freedoms, western ingenuity and western economic policies. Putin and the Duma just flushed it all down the drain and invaded a neighboring nation for no more reason than to enslave and loot it.


26 posted on 07/23/2022 1:34:30 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: dennisw

yall did not know odessa, the entire black sea is a goal?


27 posted on 07/23/2022 1:35:27 PM PDT by mylife (And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids...)
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To: marcusmaximus

Patton was talking about the Soviet Union. Incidentally, he wouldn’t recognize America today. Which begs the question, why do you support Biden’s foreign policy?


28 posted on 07/23/2022 1:37:51 PM PDT by JonPreston
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To: dennisw

note turkey wants the black sea too


29 posted on 07/23/2022 1:38:12 PM PDT by mylife (And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids...)
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To: dennisw; Sacajaweau; dforest; Ultra Sonic 007
I told you so.

"Russia never honors their agreements. They bomb humanitarian corridors, there’s no reason to trust Russia on this. - Danny TN<

"Baloney... - Sacajaweau

"Oh for Gawd’s sake stop it. - dforest

"Given that bombing the ships carrying grain would tick off the African nations who have been neutral to supportive of Russia thus far, it would be irrational for Russia to put on a big show of signing these agreements only to then destroy the grain shipments. - Ultr Sonic 007

30 posted on 07/23/2022 1:38:57 PM PDT by DannyTN
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Unnamed sources.

Obscured names or the use of pronouns.

And no mention why the Russians may have done something like that?

In fact, no mention if the Russians actually did this? Maybe it was Ukrainian, an accident... who knows? How do we know for sure?

What is the Russian position, is it even mentioned?

From Amanda at MSN... BS. She isn’t there. She’s someone sitting in the US that gets a bunch of bullets from some source (we do not know who that is) puts this into her own words and puts her name on it. Junk news.


31 posted on 07/23/2022 1:41:24 PM PDT by Red6
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Patton was very clear.

He said “Russians”. Not “Soviets.”

And he said Russians haven’t changed since their Mongol days.

And he’d say the same thing today about Russians if he was alive.


32 posted on 07/23/2022 1:41:51 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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What would Patton have said about Biden and his communists wrecking this country? Or the Ukrainian money launderers you love so much? Would he love Hunter’s laptop and business deals?

If you want to compare the USSR with today’s Russia, you also have to compare today’s America with the one from back then.


33 posted on 07/23/2022 1:42:24 PM PDT by Luke21
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Patton would have hated Biden too.


34 posted on 07/23/2022 1:43:15 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

That may be true, but Putin doesn’t have any designs on me. The WEF, who controls Zelensky, does.


35 posted on 07/23/2022 1:43:22 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Eat the Rich)
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Eastern Ukraine’s Problematic Peace Plan
ForeignPolicy.com
Amy Mackinnon
February 17, 2002
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/02/17/minsk-agreement-ukraine-russia-peace/

Excerpt:

“While Russia’s role in arming separatist rebels and sending in ground forces to support the fighting has been widely documented by Western governments and investigative journalists, Moscow continues to deny its involvement in the conflict. “The No. 1 thing is that Russia refuses to acknowledge that it is a party to the Minsk agreements, and that it has obligations under the Minsk agreements, which it has never fulfilled,” Volker said. Despite being a signatory to the deal, Moscow insists that it’s up to the Ukrainian government and separatist leaders in the east to resolve the standoff.”


36 posted on 07/23/2022 1:44:20 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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Oh really? All those freedoms we have? Tell that to the Jan 6th prisoners, Steve Bannon, Mike Flynn. Tell that to the Canadian truckers.

You are in the New Evil Axis. You best be more worried about that.


37 posted on 07/23/2022 1:45:12 PM PDT by dforest
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To: marcusmaximus

Patton wasn’t very fond of Jews, and frankly mentioned that we might have fought on the wrong side of WWII, but other than that he was a great guy.


38 posted on 07/23/2022 1:45:13 PM PDT by JonPreston
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Oh really? All those freedoms we have? Tell that to the Jan 6th prisoners, Steve Bannon, Mike Flynn. Tell that to the Canadian truckers.

You are in the New Evil Axis. You best be more worried about that.


39 posted on 07/23/2022 1:45:18 PM PDT by dforest
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To: marcusmaximus

That idiot also beloved in reincarnation and that he fought in Roman wars 2000 years ago.


40 posted on 07/23/2022 1:46:55 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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