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Car Repos Are Exploding. That’s a Bad Omen.
barrons ^ | July 8, 2022 | By Lisa Beilfuss

Posted on 07/10/2022 3:30:26 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

The jobs report and minutes from the Federal Reserve’s June meeting were the economic highlights of the week, but they are, respectively, a lagging indicator and old news. This column instead digs into the auto market, where there is an underappreciated ticking time bomb.

Lucky Lopez is a car dealer who has been in the business for about 20 years. In recent meetings with bankers, where he bids on repossessed vehicles before they go to auction, he has noticed some common characteristics of the defaulted loans. Most of the loans on recently repossessed cars originated during 2020 and 2021, whereas origination dates are normally scattered because people fall on hard times at different times; loan-to-value ratios, or the amount financed relative to the value of the vehicle, are around 140%, versus a more normal 80%; and many of the loans were extended to buyers who had temporary pops in income during the pandemic. Those monthly incomes fell—sometimes by half—as pandemic stimulus programs stopped, and now they look even worse on an inflation-adjusted basis and as the prices of basics in particular are climbing.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automotive; carrepos; depression; economy; vehiclerepos
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1 posted on 07/10/2022 3:30:26 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
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Cars exploding? Repo men exploding? Cars possessed and then repossessed. That sounds like the first exorcism didn’t take. This is definitely a bad omen.


2 posted on 07/10/2022 3:33:45 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I spent 20 yrs. training my monkey to talk and he finally said "A pox on you" and then died.)
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One more sign of “Happy Days Are Here Again” under Biden and his Masters.


3 posted on 07/10/2022 3:35:24 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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I remember that movie with Darren McGavin in it over 40 years ago.


4 posted on 07/10/2022 3:36:05 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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Soon to be followed by House repo’s.


5 posted on 07/10/2022 3:36:12 PM PDT by entropy12 (Trump/DeSantis & MAGA! are the only way to keep USA viable. Are so many somany)
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Does this mean the rest of might finally get some decent proving on good used cars?


6 posted on 07/10/2022 3:38:02 PM PDT by DarthFuzball ("Life is full of little surprises." - Pandora)
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7 posted on 07/10/2022 3:38:05 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit)
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Other than a loan shark, who would be crazy enough to loan $ to the tune of 140% of the value of what is being financed?


8 posted on 07/10/2022 3:38:36 PM PDT by traderrob6
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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078522/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk


9 posted on 07/10/2022 3:40:02 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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10 posted on 07/10/2022 3:41:08 PM PDT by Bobalu (A dem asked what side I was for in Ukraine, I said "I'm against the commies" -- He got real pissed!)
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[There is a silver lining in that the weaker economy the auto trouble both reflects and portends should cool inflation. But it might not be that simple, at least not right away. “A lot of the banks—they’re smart. They control the market, like diamonds,” Lopez says. “As repos pour in, they only release them so often,” he says, meaning auto prices will probably remain stubborn even as economic growth wanes and more repos mean more used-car inventory.]


This is what I call whistling past the graveyard. The thing about mass market used cars - repos or otherwise - they ain’t wine. They don’t get more valuable with age. At the beginning, they’ll hold them, confident that they’ll hold their value. Then, as chip production kinks are worked out, and new cars start piling up on car lots, and manufacturer incentives to move them out start to balloon, used car prices will whoosh down, triggering panicked dumping by the banks.

Another issue for banks that wasn’t such a big deal before? Crime. Now that progressive DA’s have all but decriminalized theft, storing repos has likely become an expensive proposition. That means big time security measures that require more staff as repo inventory piles up. That’s inventory that, if held on to, will have to be offset by continued high used car pricing. Every single day it sits in storage is another chunk of cost they’re counting on being able to defray. That’s a huge gamble, and not sustainable in a market that is tottering, to say the least.


11 posted on 07/10/2022 3:42:47 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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An article i read earlier said the average new car payment was $666

And many were well over 1k

That is some crazy s#it.


12 posted on 07/10/2022 3:43:47 PM PDT by algore
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140% of the value of the car may be 80% of the price paid.


13 posted on 07/10/2022 3:45:40 PM PDT by Born in 1950 (Anti left, nothing else.)
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“Prosperity is just around the corner”


14 posted on 07/10/2022 3:46:07 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (We are living in 1984. We have always been living in 1984.)
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Lucky Lopez? Classic!


15 posted on 07/10/2022 3:46:15 PM PDT by Fury
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Building
Back
Better!!!


16 posted on 07/10/2022 3:46:26 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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(An article i read earlier said the average new car payment was $666)

That seems..... about right


17 posted on 07/10/2022 3:47:35 PM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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Our lease is expiring on our 2019 Jeep Cherokee. Only 25,000 miles on it due to Covid and working from home. We can buy it outright for $17,000, which we are doing. That price was in the terms of the lease at inception.

Right now the same vehicle with a lot more miles is selling for $35,000.

No repo for us.


18 posted on 07/10/2022 3:51:58 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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19 posted on 07/10/2022 3:53:13 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit)
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Could be deflationary.

More repos = more supply of used cars

More supply of used cars lowers prices from covid levels

Banks might have ti take a little hit if they over booked the collateral, buy what the hey, the gummit was pumping trillions out the door to the banks to make loans

The bankers knew the risk profile before they made the loans


20 posted on 07/10/2022 3:56:13 PM PDT by thinden (buckle up.....)
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