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To: RomanSoldier19

[There is a silver lining in that the weaker economy the auto trouble both reflects and portends should cool inflation. But it might not be that simple, at least not right away. “A lot of the banks—they’re smart. They control the market, like diamonds,” Lopez says. “As repos pour in, they only release them so often,” he says, meaning auto prices will probably remain stubborn even as economic growth wanes and more repos mean more used-car inventory.]


This is what I call whistling past the graveyard. The thing about mass market used cars - repos or otherwise - they ain’t wine. They don’t get more valuable with age. At the beginning, they’ll hold them, confident that they’ll hold their value. Then, as chip production kinks are worked out, and new cars start piling up on car lots, and manufacturer incentives to move them out start to balloon, used car prices will whoosh down, triggering panicked dumping by the banks.

Another issue for banks that wasn’t such a big deal before? Crime. Now that progressive DA’s have all but decriminalized theft, storing repos has likely become an expensive proposition. That means big time security measures that require more staff as repo inventory piles up. That’s inventory that, if held on to, will have to be offset by continued high used car pricing. Every single day it sits in storage is another chunk of cost they’re counting on being able to defray. That’s a huge gamble, and not sustainable in a market that is tottering, to say the least.


11 posted on 07/10/2022 3:42:47 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Then, as chip production kinks are worked out, and new cars start piling up on car lots, and manufacturer incentives to move them out start to balloon, used car prices will whoosh down, triggering panicked dumping by the banks.


I don’t think the chip production “kinks” are ever going away. EVs don’t seem to have any problem with chip availability, and they use (on average) 2X the chips an ICE vehicle does. This tells me the chip shortage is yet another way they are trying to nudge the public away from ICE cars.


32 posted on 07/10/2022 4:24:17 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Zhang Fei

Great assessment on the matter.


34 posted on 07/10/2022 4:26:04 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Zhang Fei

The crooks only want to hack off the catalytic converters.


36 posted on 07/10/2022 4:31:25 PM PDT by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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To: Zhang Fei
they only release them so often

In Texas, creditors can’t stockpile repoed cars. The financier does not own the repoed car, but merely has a security interest that allows them to take possession of the car and sell it in a commercially reasonable manner.

Are there states where the financier just keeps the car, and has good title to it? In the absence of a commercially reasonable sale, I do not see how it may be determined if the buyer still owes the financier, because the car is worth less than the loan balance, or if the financier owes the buyer, because the car was worth more than the loan balance and cost of repo. (It happens — but not often.)

76 posted on 07/10/2022 7:15:32 PM PDT by Pilsner
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