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Lindsey Graham: Allow Military Vets, ROTC Instructors to Carry Guns for Classroom Defense
Breitbart ^ | 06/04/2022 | Awr Hawkins

Posted on 06/04/2022 9:56:55 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is pushing to allow military vets and ROTC instructors to carry guns on school campuses for classroom defense.

Graham tweeted on June 3, “It is time to mobilize our retired and former service members who are willing to help secure our schools. Our schools are soft targets. They contain our most valuable possession — our children, the future of our country — and must be protected.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; bidenrepublicans; classroom; education; graham; guns; lindseygraham; military; nra; secondamendment; southcarolina; uvalde
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Require full firearms training for anyone who wants to be a teacher (yearly range practice/testing as part of their degree/licensing requirements.) Only those willing to train and effectively use firearms and with out prior criminal history may become teachers.

Think of all those who will not want to become teachers if this were in place. Thus threats from outside AND snide the classroom are addressed.


41 posted on 06/04/2022 11:09:44 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Let’s go Linda.


42 posted on 06/04/2022 11:09:47 AM PDT by sauropod (What we’re living through is not an unintentional accident: it’s the American Holodomor.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Not talking about the reserves. I am talking veterans who’ve spent years in the military.

Someone spending years in the military and still has little or no weapons training/experience, is certainly not the norm or standard.


43 posted on 06/04/2022 11:12:00 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Pollard
A good set of rules and procedures would have prevented Uvalde, had they been followed. Getting teachers to follow them is another thing. The school cops didn’t even follow their own procedures.

Over time, most teachers would get lax and treat security doors how they now treat rated fire doors— if they were too “inconvenient” to be kept closed and latched, they would find a way to prop them open or disable them.

44 posted on 06/04/2022 11:13:21 AM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversaet! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: MarDav
Sorry for the”snide” remark. That’s in side.
45 posted on 06/04/2022 11:13:28 AM PDT by MarDav
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To: marktwain
"Why attack Graham when he finally says something that makes sense?"

Because he's a disingenuous asshole. He says one thing publicly, then sticks the knife in your back. Those same military members he claims he wants to be able to carry, are the same people he will be targeting when he joins Democrats on creating Red Flag Laws. If an 18 year old can enlist in the military, be issued a weapon, and die for their country, but can't own a personal weapon until the age of 21, then maybe the enlistment age needs to be changed to 21, and the voting age returned to 21, as it originally was when I first voted. Democrats and Rinos like Graham will work together to come up with some form of gun control. Don't be fooled by Graham's comments. He's a lying sack of shit.

46 posted on 06/04/2022 11:14:20 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: dragnet2
How does one spend years in the military yet have no meaningful weapons training/experience?

Many ways.

Join the Air Force or Navy and become an office pinky for one.

Every military recruit is not trained as a rifleman or trained for combat.

I know someone who retired from the Air Force and never touched a loaded weapon in all that time.

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47 posted on 06/04/2022 11:19:39 AM PDT by Iron Munro ( Joe Biden - Inventor Of The First New Language since Esperanto)
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To: Grampa Dave

Btw, where I was we were taught to field strip and reassemble an M16, blindfolded. Same with a 1911 etc. Even during off time, we had all the ammo needed and could practice until the barrels were nearly red hot.

Maybe nowadays they give them dolls to practice with...I dunno.


48 posted on 06/04/2022 11:19:47 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
" It can be done cheap with volunteers or pay them in the form of tax incentives."

Great opportunity for lawsuits arising from the use of a fire arm by volunteers. Who is going to pay for litigation costs, and any fine or damage award?? The way the justice system is today, these volunteers would be eaten up by liberal Judges.

49 posted on 06/04/2022 11:22:12 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Iron Munro
Join the Air Force or Navy and become an office pinky for one.

That's odd. Regardless of MOS, upon joining the service, they used to have weeks of small arms training/qualifications during basic, AIT and on-going training qualifications etc. I guess nowadays you can join the navy, or air force and forgo any arms training and go straight into a cushy office job.

I guess things have changed quite a bit.

50 posted on 06/04/2022 11:25:10 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: mass55th
Great opportunity for lawsuits arising from the use of a fire arm by volunteers.

Oh you mean like lawsuits costing *many* millions when dozens of students are shot up?

51 posted on 06/04/2022 11:28:01 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Thanks for your service.

Were you in the Army or what military branch?

Thanks
Dave


52 posted on 06/04/2022 11:29:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has anyone, recently, seen a Biden sticker on any vehicle and in particular at/in a gas station!!!)
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To: fidelis

That’s where sensors could come in with a beeping in the front office that doesn’t shut up until the door is secure.


53 posted on 06/04/2022 11:30:55 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: dragnet2; Grampa Dave; Iron Munro
Someone spending years in the military and still has little or no weapons training/experience, is certainly not the norm or standard.

It was the norm when I was in the Air Force and probably still is. I was a Security Policeman so I carried a variety of arms every day with live ammo, and we trained and requalified several times a year. However, there are only a handful of other AFSC’s (MOS) that do so— air crews, armorers, pararescue, Air Combat Controllers, AFOSI. The preponderance of Airmen are either desk jockeys, techies, or grease monkeys that haven’t touched a duty weapon since boot camp. I hope that’s changed.

54 posted on 06/04/2022 11:31:38 AM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversaet! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: mass55th
Great opportunity for lawsuits arising from the use of a fire arm by volunteers.

I guess were all screwed since the cops demonstrated they'll stand around gawking looking cool in their paramilitary garb, while dozens of people are shot up and bleeding out...And now we can't use qualified volunteers because it could make the school/city liable...lol

55 posted on 06/04/2022 11:33:12 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Iron Munro

I know someone who retired from the Air Force and never touched a loaded weapon in all that time.

We were friends of two brothers, who served active duty and then reserves in the Air Force.

Both were Officers and one became a 2 star general and would have been assigned to their academy as a director in case he was called up on active duty.

Neither one of these guys ever shot a gun.


56 posted on 06/04/2022 11:34:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has anyone, recently, seen a Biden sticker on any vehicle and in particular at/in a gas station!!!)
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To: Greenpees

The view of many veterans of an actual conflict. We see the vet tag for anyone that enlisted as a participation award.


57 posted on 06/04/2022 11:36:18 AM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: fidelis

Everyone keeps bring up the Navy and Air force...lol.

In the real military everyone was well qualified with small arms and the training continued for the duration of service.

I am guessing the Navy and Air Force are not concerned with such things.


58 posted on 06/04/2022 11:36:26 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Talk one side then talk the other side and hope no one notices you’re kissing everyone’s cheeks.


59 posted on 06/04/2022 11:39:09 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Grampa Dave

It was not the Navy or Air Force.☺


60 posted on 06/04/2022 11:40:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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