Posted on 05/29/2022 7:13:03 AM PDT by rktman
Actor Jon Voight reacted to the deadly Uvalde, Texas, school shooting by suggesting that Americans should undergo “proper testing” for gun ownership.
On May 28, 2022, four days after the heinous attack on Uvalde’s Robb Elementary School, Voight posted a video to Twitter and said:
It’s not about left right, guns no guns, this about brains that are disfunctioning, this is mental. This is not about healthy human beings serving the country with arms to bear or even the right of this constitution for bearing arms. It is a right to use arms with proper purpose to defend one’s safety, we must not allow mental illness to take away our right to bear arms.
Voight then spoke of those killed by the gunman, saying “These innocent souls…are children of God. I must remind us all that God will take home these angels.”
The Oscar-winner then posted a second video, in which he said, “We must identify every individual for their credentials for their mental capacity to bear arms. There should be proper qualifications for gun ownership, and proper testing. One should only own a gun if they’re qualified and schooled.”
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What is proper testing, John? Does everyone in the government or in law enforcement have proper testing? if they did, there would be no cops having to kill and no criminals around who kill people who aren’t properly tested. Right, John?
Most guns are in the hands of law abiding citizens. Criminals who kill people have other ways of killing other than guns. The desire to kill, I am sure, is not about which weapon, but about the desire to kill.
After this tragedy, one that could have been stopped or ended quickly, makes people look for easy answers. They just throw out words with no thought or meaning as a solution.
I would suggest John should take a little more time before chiming in and at least define what proper testing is supposed to be.
There is no way to stop people from killing people. There are ways to reduce the killing, but nothing is ever 100%. Killers are gonna kill.
I remember when you weren’t even on this site.
Voight seems one of the good guys, but he apparently didn’t engage his brain in this instance.
First qualification question:
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Democrat Party?
“You simply cannot have mental testing as a prerequisite for having guns. It is simply too subjective, and too easily abused. It’s a non-starter.”
This is true. I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to a mandatory drug test, though, including cannabis. That’s objective. You either have dope in your system or you don’t. Most of the nuts out there are on drugs, so cooling the heels of that cohort isn’t a bad idea.
get rid of all the illegal “gun control laws”
teach firearms safety and skills in high schools
(return other life-necessary and useful skills classes, too)
return shooting sports to high schools
problem 90 percent solved in just a few years!
oh yes, get rid of the anti-American Hollywood a*holes and DemoCommieNazi political wh*ores
And, what about qualified and schooled keeps a killer from killing?
Now, if we find out this 18 year old had any prior run ins with the cops or any mental health issues, the answer lies right there.
Even that can’t change the killer instinct.
Un American stupid people should be highly scrutinized before being allowed to vote. I’m thing an IQ of at least 120.
Exactly. You can guarantee that the leftist who infest the mental health profession will deem that simply wanting to own a firearm is grounds to deny your request.
Military weapons is purposefully designed to be operated by people with an IQ of over 83. They are simpler than Xbox gaming controller.
I thi k our readers have responded as they should. They mentioned “shall not be infringed” and they also mentioned that people hell bent on hurt8ng others won’t be tested, meaning that the only ones hurt by this new “proper testing” which, as readers pointed out will be exploited and highly subjective... who controls determining the results?” (Flaming liberals who are anti gun to begin with?) Will be the law abiding citizens, never the criminals who thumb their noses at laws anyways. The constitution was created to uphold our inalienable right, our God given right to protect ourselves. We already have laws which supercede the constitution by taking guns away fro. The criminally insane when courts decide its “proper” to do so- there is no need to put the vast majority of law abiding citizens through impossible hoops which WILL BE exploited by the left. They have already trampled our rights by passing an astonishing 20,000 plus actual gun laws, and another 300, 000 gun statutes. Which by the way, none of which would have stopped a y of the shooters practically- what would have stopped them however was the fsct that the fbi knew of the individuals in almost every case, knew they were radical, knew they were arrested for various crimes before hand, knew of their ideologies by their social,media posts, etc etc etc, and they still let them go
Punishing law abiding citizens even further by attacking them to “fix the problem” makes about as much sense as making it nearly impossible for anyone to drive in order to cut down on drunk driving.
Joh voit is wrong on this issue. His comments are not well thought out and are based on emotion, not hard facts. John apparently,isn’t aware that most of the individuals were identified as troubled people, yet they were still let go. We do not need tk test hundreds of millions of law abiding citizens In order to find a few unstable individuals, but we do need to keep an eye on individuals who have proven gh3mselves to to be a menace or danger to society. In almost every case, the fbi and local police forces dropped the ball on this . The ,eft are very quick to take guns away from patriots that don’t fol.ow the law, but they are loathe to take them from obviously mentally disturbed Individuals who are known to law enforcement many Times over.
To jon and others reacting on emotion- Stop attacking law abiding citizens. We aren’t the ones committingmthe crimes! We have 20,000 gun laws and 300,000 statutes related to guns. Enough is enough! Obviously another approach needs to be done. Criminals and the severaly mentally disturbed are tne ones doing the shootings, not sane law abiding citizens- maybe stop dropping the ball whenmpeople,with severe mental problems become dangers to society, and show obvious signs that indicate they might do somehting. Secure the schools (something the left fight tooth and nail,agaisnt, proving thst they are only,interested in taking uns away from those who follow the law)
Based on ...
1. the number of mental health professionals working in America today ...
2. performing one examination per hour over a 40-hour work week, 50 weeks a year and ...
3. the number of firearms now being sold per year ...
... it would take them 30 years to vet every prospective buyer for just a single year.
And that presumes that they neglect all their customary wackadoodle patients and only do gun buyer exams.
Yeah, the right of government-approved people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Biden would take that to mean no Republican could own a gun.
Thank you Mr Rktmn. I can properly lob back. I find that anyone with a knuckle dragging comment such as Voingt’s has not properly informed himself with the facts of this case and aligns himself with such knuckle draggers as my emotional co worker, Obama, Biden, cornyn, Matthew McConaughey, Beto orourke those who wish to stir the.knuckle dragging mob.
The New York Times itself provided on Saturday, it’s most widely read ANC’s circulated edition, ironically, full front page, the timeline of the fifty minute 911 exchange between the little girl and the cops outside her classroom door. The Wall Street Journal provides yet more bad imagery stats ing that local cops kept arriving border patrol agents from entering the school building
Clarice Feldman provides an illustration of the troubled shooter pre shooting af a guy well known by family and community to be very disturbed
The background check issue can be further examined to include the fact that juvenile records might be best not sealed on one’s 18th birthday.
This Neanderthal like statement from an uninformed actor with a stage for acting, not politics, is well noted
I now have to add to my tune him out list after having just yesterday part of having had a Jon Voight day with my family watching MI then the Jon Voight’s car episode of Seinfeld
We need to think about this. Most people here went to high scool and graduated when they were 18. Back then, we even had the 2nd amendment.
At 18, I knew of no one who thought about shooting up schools, vandalizing and creating scenes in stores and restaurants etc.
What has changed? I will offer social media as one reason. People can pollute minds with crazy ideas in mass quantities and make it cool and the answer to any grievances.
I agree with Jon 1000%. I don’t want my deranged neighbor to own a gun. PERIOD.
“proper testing”
But who will test those giving the test? You really want to be tested by some Psychologist who actually wants to prevent everyone from having a firearm?
“False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction.
The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity, the most important of the code, will respect the less important and arbitrary ones, which can be violated with ease and impunity, and which, if strictly obeyed, would put an end to personal liberty... and subject innocent persons to all the vexations that the guilty alone ought to suffer?
Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
They ought to be designated as laws not preventive but fearful of crimes, produced by the tumultuous impression of a few isolated facts, and not by thoughtful consideration of the inconveniences and advantages of a universal decree.”
~ Cesare Beccaria
I wonder if the brain-dead senile old man in the White House armed with Nukes will take the same test.
I identify with your post.
I also remember my Junior High School being built like a prison. Heavy, self -locking doors with tiny windows. The building was locked, the rooms were all locked.
It is disturbing that this is what “teachers” wanted. It needs to be rethought, what “school” is.
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