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Expert: Biden wrong on 2nd Amendment … again! President cites non-existent ban on owning a cannon to promote gun control
wnd.com ^ | 5/26/2022 1232 hrs edt | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/27/2022 6:10:52 AM PDT by rktman

It appears that Joe Biden is unwilling, or worse yet unable, to let the facts get in the way of his promotion of more gun controls for Americans, and he's being called out for that by a constitutional expert.

Jonathan Turley, a popular analyst and commentator on the Constitution and professor at George Washington University, posted a column this week in the wake of Biden's comments that were prompted by the mass murder in Texas of children in a school.

He headlined his commentary, "President Biden repeats false claim about the Second Amendment," and explained Biden's falsehood, showing he remained "undeterred and uninformed," came in his claim, "The Second Amendment is not absolute. When it was passed you couldn't own a cannon, you couldn't own certain kinds of weapons. There's just always been limitations."

It's a popular refrain for Biden, who earlier publicly claimed, "The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own. You couldn't buy a cannon."

And, he falsely claimed, "By the way – it's going to sound bizarre – I support the Second Amendment. But from the very beginning the Second Amendment didn't say you could own any gun you want, as big as you want. You couldn't buy a cannon, when in fact the Second Amendment passed."

"The statement that the Second Amendment is not absolute is certainly true. There are laws that can be crafted within the confines set out under controlling Supreme Court precedent," Turley explained.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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To: rktman

I would reword the 2A as follows:

The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed because a well armed populace is necessary to the security of liberty.


21 posted on 05/27/2022 6:55:19 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Sooth2222

The Second Amendment was NEVER “passed” you (Biden) sloppy wet defecant!


22 posted on 05/27/2022 6:57:57 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is NOT a religion of any sort. It is a violent and tyrannical system of ruling others.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

As we were reminded by branDUHn when he accused, well, anyone that is white and takes pride in their heritage of being a suprema-cyst, they have F-15s and nukes.


23 posted on 05/27/2022 6:58:36 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? πŸ˜•)
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To: Sooth2222

The plural of cannon is cannon.


24 posted on 05/27/2022 6:59:42 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: Lisbon1940
The plural of cannon is cannon.

The plural of cannon is cannoli.


25 posted on 05/27/2022 7:04:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (ELON MUSK IS THE CORPORATE VERSION OF DONALD TRUMP!)
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To: Lazamataz

You haven’t lost a step.

I miss Bellygirl posts. What happened to beautiful women in media?

She was hotter than Georgia asphalt.


26 posted on 05/27/2022 7:06:01 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: rktman

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27 posted on 05/27/2022 7:16:51 AM PDT by sauropod ("We put all our politicians in prison as soon as they are elected. Don’t you?" Why? "It saves time.”)
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To: rktman
Many American Colonials owned cannon discarded by both sides in the French & Indian wars. Others bought their own because their local militia had none. There even were militia gun batteries comprised entirely of privately-owned cannon and civilian cannoneers.

Privateers hired by the US Congress -- which would include the legendary French pirate Jean Lafitte during the War of 1812 -- all had ships positively bristling with privately-owned cannon.

Furthermore, cannon are still legal to own to this day. Not just the black powder cannon even juveniles can buy from the back pages of comic books and Soldier of Fortune magazine (which of themselves put the lie to Bite-Me's claim), but real, (reasonably) modern military hardware (tightly controlled NFA devices, but legal nonetheless).

Quite a few of the cannon currently in private ownership happen to be attached to a tank, as in an army tank, which also are privately owned, which puts the lie to yet another of Bite-Me's claims (he also lies about not being able to own fighter jets, but there isn't room for that bit here).

Probably my favorite example of a privately-owned cannon being fired from a privately-owned tank purely for entertainment purposes was when the Demolition Ranch's own Matt used the main gun (which is what you call a cannon when it's mounted to a tank) from a war surplus tank to see how much damage the muzzle blast coming sideways out of the main gun tube's muzzle brake will do to a refrigerator.

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The tank in question, BTW, also has four (4) fully-automatic machine guns mounted on it, one privately-owned .50 BMG machine gun and three privately-owned .30-06 Springfield machine guns, in addition to the main gun (the bore of which is not stated).

HUMOR ALERT!

You have been warned! Video of the frivolities is here.


I'm not certain but I believe the tank is a, M4A3 "Large Hatch," which originally would have carried a 75mm main gun but this one I think has been "upgraded" to 90mm because muzzle brakes weren't common on the 75mm gun.

28 posted on 05/27/2022 7:17:59 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli

Yup. If you have the money and do the paper work you can have a BANG up time. Full auto is pretty expensive these days to buy.


29 posted on 05/27/2022 7:23:25 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? πŸ˜•)
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To: XRdsRev

At least pres. Biden didn’t use his lame “can’t own” an F-15 carrying Hellfire missiles

near as I can figure...
- a gatling\mini gun
- Tannerite
- M-79 grenade launcher
- Machine gun
- Flame Thrower
- C-4

all legal; some with regulation limitations; some with no regulations


30 posted on 05/27/2022 7:23:54 AM PDT by stylin19a (Why is it called "after dark" when it really is "after light"?)
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To: carcraft

I’m guessing that Biden’s reason behind people not owning cannons is the same reasoning behind what he is currently doing to the economy. He has no idea what he is really doing. It’s too bad that we could not just do a rerun on the last presidential election right now. It might turn out differently IF we could keep the Democrats from derailing things again.


31 posted on 05/27/2022 7:40:50 AM PDT by oldtech
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To: rktman

Bidey lies, the liar of all liars:

CANNONS and ARTILLERY WERE LEGAL IN PHILADELPHIA IN 1790
ORDINANCES Ordinance of January 18 1790 An ordinance for the suppression of nuisances and enforcing of useful regulations within the city of Philadelphia For the other sections of this ordinance see Nuisances and Carriages 1 And whereas the firing of cannon or other great pieces of artillery or ordnance and the illuminating of houses within the city on occasions of public rejoicing have been attended with many great mischiefs and inconveniences It is therefore ordained and enacted That no person or persons whatsoever shall fire or discharge any cannon or other piece of artillery or ordnance or illuminate or cause or permit to be illuminated any house within the built parts of this city without the permission of the mayor of the city for the time being first had and obtained in writing under his hand under the penalty of forfeiting and paying for every piece of cannon or other artillery or ordnance so fired or house so illuminated the sum of five dollars all and every the fine and fines imposed by this ordinance shall be recoverable with costs of suit by any person
who shall sue for the same before the mayor recorder or any
alderman of the said and shall go one moiety to the person or persons who shall sue for the same and the other moiety for the use of the city Ordinance of July 9 1821 p.78

A Digest of the Ordinances of the Corporation of the City of Philadelphia: And of the Acts of Assembly Relating Thereto
Corporation (PHILADELPHIA), John C. LOWBER (and MILLER (C. S.))

Robert Desilver, 1822 - Municipal charters and ordinances - 301 pages

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“Cannons for sale Six very excellent double fortified sizes, with ammunition...”
New-York Commercial Advertiser, August 02, 1804, Page 1

for sale 4 cannons
New-York Evening Post., July 16, 1811, Page 1

for sale 200 cannons and 100 tons of shot’
New-York Evening Post ., September 23, 1828, Page 3

for sale 200 cannons and howitzers and tons of shot and ammunition
New-York Evening Post , November 02, 1844, Page 1 [NY City]

for sale 50 cannons and 100 tons of shot
New-York Evening Post , September 09, 1829, Page 1 [NY City]

My neighbor down the street has 2 iron cannon on his lawn. My friend 3 miles away has a brass cannon on her porch.


32 posted on 05/27/2022 7:43:19 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect..it was NYC.)
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To: mastertex

U.S. Govt sells 400 cannons, 36 mortars, muskets and cartridges to the general public.

Evening Courier & Republic, February 07, 1866, Page 3 [Buffalo, NY]


33 posted on 05/27/2022 7:45:42 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect..it was NYC.)
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To: Sooth2222
Collectors can (and do) own cannons,

You can buy a replica fully operational Civil Was canon on the internet, last time I checked they were going for about 15 grand.

34 posted on 05/27/2022 7:58:51 AM PDT by usurper
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To: rktman

In the 1840s Georgia tried to ban certain firearms. In a court case here is what the State Supreme Court had to say about it.

19. * Nunn v. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243, at 251 (1846).

“’The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed.’ The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of a free State.”


35 posted on 05/27/2022 7:59:34 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (http://montypython.50webs.com/scripts/Life_of_Brian/8.htm)
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To: rktman

What is it with this Biden clown? His staff likes to set Biden-Bot on the loose to say stupid things. Fake Doc Jill where are you?


36 posted on 05/27/2022 8:01:54 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: usurper

Catholic, Orthodox or Lutheran canon?


37 posted on 05/27/2022 8:06:10 AM PDT by Reily
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To: rktman
Biden says "Buy a shotgun."

I think I will.


38 posted on 05/27/2022 8:08:15 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: rktman
I can buy a cannon now with no FFL involvement. I can get the powder and fuses as well with no FFL.

https://www.steencannons.com/

https://www.americancannons.com/product/black-powder/

https://cannonfuse.com/

39 posted on 05/27/2022 8:09:28 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: rktman

Biden, who earlier publicly claimed, “The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, *limited the type of people* who could own a gun.

Can’t have Marxism with an armed public.


40 posted on 05/27/2022 8:10:18 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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