Posted on 05/23/2022 6:35:54 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
He was not going to pick Christie as V P.
Yep.
Agreed. I am no fan of Pence but honestly I am baffled as to what some people expected him to do at the time. Over a year later and we still do not have concrete proof of election fraud in numbers that could be PROVEN to have changed the election results. All we have is circumstantial evidence which while in some cases is persuasive , it is not enough proof to throw the entire United States into a Constitutional crisis the likes we have not seen since 1861. I have some pity for Pence as he was thrust into a no win situation. The Electoral College had made their decision and to overturn that decision we needed a lot more than just a strong feeling that we were robbed. Since that time no Kracken has been released and the Arizona audit that was supposed to blow this whole thing out of the water, just ended up being a fizzle.
Trump had no allies. He was a yankee outsider.
My dishwasher wants an apology.
My dishwadher sez that the waterheater dumped in back 40 would probably be okay with it.
Who or what is a Pence? I’ve never heard anything about one before….
That is a good punch down.
"In a Times article about Pence laying the groundwork for a potential 2024 bid, Trump spokesperson Taylor Budowich said the former Indiana governor was “set to lose a governor’s race in 2016 before he was plucked up and his political career was salvaged.”
Yeah not so much. Unopposed in the primary and the same face was pulling the Donkey Cart - Walrus Greggs. Pence would have won by Holcomb's 6 points.
See, that's the thing about punching down, Budowich ruined a really good opening tagline with a 2nd line of complete bullshit.
What?! 2,000 Mules was enough evidence to overturn the election esp. when 54,000 was the number of unique individuals to use dropbox balloting at least 5 times. 2k was just the number from 10 or more trips that would overturn this election. And this same cell phone data has been used in plenty of other cases including those from Jan. 6th.
And you state “All we have is circumstantial evidence...” NOT!
He was authorized to send for an inquiry after debate…that was shut down on queue.
Sadly, true.
Kemp? Jack Kemp?
Anyway ... Pence signed a 4M two-book deal with Simon & Schuster two months before he bought the house in Carmel. As VP he made $235,100 yearly, plus $10,000 taxable expense allowance, free lodging at the Naval Observatory, free Air Force 2 and helos, and a staff of 80+. And now he receives state, Congressional, and Federal pensions, although the latter is actually based on service as President of the Senate.
When you can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that what is in 2000 Mules is absolute fact and most importantly if you can prove that all those delivered ballots were illegal and that they were counted for Biden, then you would have proof. Without knowing who those ballots were cast for (which is probably impossible to verify) the evidence remains circumstantial.
2000 Mules might be excellent investigative journalism and Dinesh might be 100% correct but I am sorry, the movie does not provide ironclad proof of election fraud that swung the election for Biden. I don’t like saying that but the fact remains that in order to have overturned the election we would have needed clear, unimpeachable proof not only of fraud but of enough fraud for Biden that it changed the results. We simply do not have that and unfortunately I do not think we probably ever will.
I get that he could have stalled but realistically what would have changed ??? It’s been almost two years and there is still no ironclad evidence of widespread fraud that made Biden President. We can all think that fraud happened but proving it to the rest of America is a whole bother story.
Media gossip mongers trying to stir-up fights that don’t win elections. Trump and Pence would both do better raising MAGA issues before the voters.
But Pence can Demonize Trump. When your betrayed by someone you trusted you return the favor.
Realistically
The connotation in this instance is negative
The point is that we don’t know. The event there made sure we wouldn’t. Cui bono. They do.
A bill was introduced in the HOR to make the VP’s role purely ceremonial in counting votes because it isn’t.
Now Pence is making noises about 24.
GO home Pence.
Again the question remains…… what would have changed ???
We don’t know
There was no accountability or audit
So true. I suspect that if somehow it had been 0bama placed in Trump's situation, he would have raised holy sh t, and 100% of Congress and all the courts would have kowtowed to his every complaint to placate his grievances. It would have only taken a couple of weeks.
Here we are going on two years, and the Dems still think anyone who entertains the idea of a stolen election should be censored, investigated, and ostracized.
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