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Supreme Court’s Roe ruling would trample the religious freedom of every Jewish American
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | May 7, 2022 | Daniel Bogard and Tana Senn

Posted on 05/08/2022 11:31:18 AM PDT by artichokegrower

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To: FatherofFive
Beyond being a violation of the human rights of pregnant people.. Who says abortion is a "human right?" If I turn to the ten commandments, I find the divine rule 'you shall not
commit murder.' Murder is the intentional homicide, with malice aforethought and mens rea. This is exactly
the circumstance with aborting a human being.

This solipsism is evident in all of these petty communist screeds.

61 posted on 05/08/2022 12:28:02 PM PDT by Thommas
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To: firebrand
RBG was against Roe v Wade, she stated that position in a book back in the 90's.

She was also a good friend with Justice Scalia in a law intellectual way.

62 posted on 05/08/2022 12:28:45 PM PDT by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: firebrand
The Orthodox Jews I know seem to be firmly anti-abortion, except when there is a choice between the mother’s life and the baby’s life.

They differ from the most strictly anti-abortion Catholics in that way, as the latter do not make a distinction, last I heard.

I don't know what you "heard," but we Catholics do permit abortion to save a mother's life. It's the only exception, because it's life for life.

63 posted on 05/08/2022 12:29:07 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: ealgeone

“ thou shalt not murder would have covered it.”

You’d think so but 50 years after roe v Wade Americans are still stuck on when does life begin. Stuck on stupid.

Tgat and I’m not interested in any anticatholic FR crap today.


64 posted on 05/08/2022 12:30:04 PM PDT by stanne
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To: artichokegrower

Frank Zappa fans hit hardest.


65 posted on 05/08/2022 12:30:45 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: artichokegrower

The Talmud is not Scripture … has no more authority than a Koran.


66 posted on 05/08/2022 12:32:14 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Beyond being a violation of the human rights of pregnant people


Again, we see a liberal commentator being afraid to say “pregnant women”. These people are so damn afraid of offending the tiny number of “transgender” females who don’t identify as women any longer. This is “newspeak” as espoused by Orwell in “1984”.


67 posted on 05/08/2022 12:33:49 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: artichokegrower

All religions are free to practice their religion until their religion disagrees with U.S> law. Otherwise, someone is always under direct threat by others of differing relibions.


68 posted on 05/08/2022 12:34:08 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: stanne
It's not anti-catholic crap.....it's showing Scripture in one verse covers the issue.

It's that simple.

69 posted on 05/08/2022 12:35:22 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: artichokegrower
The Talmud, a central religious text for Jews written over 1,400 years ago, makes this even clearer by stating that “a fetus is considered a part of the pregnant person’s body, equivalent to their thigh.”

That line is in regards to the child endangering the life of the mother, it is not pertaining to woman's right to have an abortion.

70 posted on 05/08/2022 12:36:13 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: artichokegrower

It seems to me that if the “abortion argument” is framed in terms like, “the soul enters the fetus at the moment of conception, and a person enters existence at this moment” — in such a case, one is dealing with a religious argument of some kind, and then one could review the Torah, the Bible, the Koran, or whatever and make an assessment “Does this abortion argument conflict with my faith?”

But, as far as I can see, no one is doing any of that.

The Supreme Court is saying “We do not have the power to make a blanket determination; let the states decide.” Does that somehow violate the Torah??

My own view is (I think) science: egg and sperm are both alive, not each contain only half the chromosomes of a human. When they join, they create a living cell which is genetically unique and clearly human. That’s a human life. I think the states ought to protect human life. I don’t see it as a religious argument. If the government does not have an obligation to protect human life, then what good is the earthly government?


71 posted on 05/08/2022 12:38:25 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's hard to "Believe all women" when judges say "I don't know what a woman is".)
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To: artichokegrower

Such a complete warping of some of the most fundamental Biblical ( and natural human) moral values as mass-scale “anortion on demand” is definitely NOT Judaism nor Christianity . Not by a country mile.


72 posted on 05/08/2022 12:38:26 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They’re excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: artichokegrower
The Talmud, a central religious text for Jews written over 1,400 years ago, makes this even clearer by stating that “a fetus is considered a part of the pregnant person’s body, equivalent to their thigh.”

This is what rabbis mean when we say that “access to abortion is a religious requirement for Jews.”

So access to thigh surgery is also a religious requirement? To liposuction?

73 posted on 05/08/2022 12:41:12 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: artichokegrower

Why do they want to make it all about Jewish rights?

What about the rights of the Satanists and their baby sacrifices to Moloch?

(Please Come Quickly Lord Jesus!)


74 posted on 05/08/2022 12:41:53 PM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see. #MAGAA)
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To: artichokegrower

From http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-fetus-in-jewish-law/

Intentional abortion is not mentioned directly in the Bible, but a case of accidental abortion is discussed in Exodus 21:22‑23, where Scripture states: “When men fight and one of them pushes a pregnant woman and a miscarriage results, but no other misfortune ensues, the one responsible shall be fined as the woman’s husband may exact from him, the payment to be based on judges’ reckoning. But if other misfortune ensues, the penalty shall be life for life.”

If it’s due to an accident, you don’t execute people for unintended deaths. That doesn’t mean the unborn baby isn’t a person. Why would intentional abortion even be a consideration when children were considered a blessing and barrenness a curse?


75 posted on 05/08/2022 12:42:46 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Is this correct according to your knowledge?


76 posted on 05/08/2022 12:44:17 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: artichokegrower

What lies. Religious Jews have an average 7 kids per family. Only atheist Jews-In-Name-Only, who don’t observe the Sabbath and haven’t seen the inside of a synogogue in years, are having abortions.


77 posted on 05/08/2022 12:47:34 PM PDT by montag813
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To: DallasBiff

That’s what I said. She was against Roe. But only because it was bad law.


78 posted on 05/08/2022 12:47:48 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Angelino97

I’m glad to hear that.

I hate when people say sanctimoniously “We mustn’t play God.” We play God all the time. In the medical professions and elsewhere.

When I was of childbearing age, people where I lived advised us quietly never to have a childbirth in a Catholic hospital, because they often kept hands off until it was too late. It’s a careful medical decision made by the most ethical people sometimes, not for those of us who didn’t bother going to medical school.


79 posted on 05/08/2022 12:52:46 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: artichokegrower

they seem to worship at the altar of death, that’s why they are always hyping war, and favor criminals over the law-abiding.


80 posted on 05/08/2022 12:56:06 PM PDT by euram
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