Supreme Court’s Roe ruling would trample the religious freedom of every Jewish American

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | May 7, 2022 | Daniel Bogard and Tana Senn

[artichokegrower]

The Supreme Court draft opinion overturning Roe v. Wade sent shock waves throughout our country when it was leaked this week. If the ruling stands, abortion access would be decimated in huge swaths of the country, and the rights of Americans everywhere will depend on whether they happen to live in a blue state or in a red state. Beyond being a violation of the human rights of pregnant people, limiting access to abortion is an imposition of governmental Christianity on us all.

And it infringes on the religious liberty of every American Jew.

[Still Thinking]

Furthermore, if a man was in a fight and killed a fetus, why was it considered murder, and not a thigh injury?

[Sonshinegirl]

Only in San Francisco are there “pregnant people “ 🙄🙄

[Alberta's Child]

In an oddly perverse way, the pro-life movement could turn a lot of people against these child killers with a brazen public statement like this:

We recognize the “religious liberty” argument of these interested parties. Therefore, we are publicly advocating for abortions to be outlawed entirely — but exceptions should be made for Jewish women who want to kill their children.

[nwrep]

Exodus chapter 21:22, per the article.

[stanne]

Oh. And here are the catechetical sources:
54 Ex 20:13; Cf. Deut 5:17.
55 Mt 5:21-22.
56 CDF, instruction, Donum vitae, intro. 5.
57 Cf. Gen 4:8-12.
58 Gen 4:10-11.
59 Gen 9:5-6.
60 Cf. Lev 17:14.
61 Ex 23:7.
62 Mt 5:21.
63 Cf. Mt 5:22-39; 5:44.
64 Cf. Mt 26:52.
65 St. Thomas Aquinas, STh II-II,64,7, corp. art.
66 St. Thomas Aquinas, STh II-II,64,7, corp. art.
67 Cf. Lk 23:40-43.
68 FRANCIS, Address to Participants in the Meeting organized by the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of the New Evangelization, 11 October 2017: L�Osservatore Romano, 13 October 2017, 5.
69 Cf. Gen 4:10.
70 Cf. GS 51 § 3.
71 Cf. Am 8:4-10.
72 Cf. CDF, Donum vitae I,1.
73 Jer 1:5; cf. Job 10:8-12; Ps 22:10-11.
74 Ps 139:15.
75 Didache 2,2:SCh 248,148; cf. Ep. Barnabae 19,5:PG 2 777; Ad Diognetum 5,6:PG 2,1173; Tertullian, Apol. 9:PL 1,319-320.
76 GS 51 § 3.
77 CIC, can. 1398.
78 CIC, can. 1314.
79 Cf. CIC, cann. 1323-1324.
80 CDF, Donum vitae III.
81 CDF, Donum vitae III.
82 CDF, Donum vitae I,2.
83 CDF, Donum vitae I,3.
84 CDF, Donum vitae I,5.
85 CDF, Donum vitae I,6.
86 Mt 18:6; cf. 1 Cor 8:10-13.
87 Cf. Mt 7:15.
88 Pius XII, Discourse, June 1, 1941.
89 Cf. Eph 6:4; Col 3:21.
90 Lk 17:1.
91 Cf. DS 3722.
92 Cf. Tob 1:16-18.
93 Cf. CIC, can. 1176 § 3.
94 Mt 5:21.
95 St. Thomas Aquinas, STh II-II,158,1 ad 3.
96 Mt 5:22.
97 Mt 5:44-45.
98 St. Augustine, De civ. Dei, 19,13,1:PL 41,640.
99 Cf. Isa 32:17; cf. GS 78 §§ 1-2.
100 Isa 9:5.
101 Eph 2:16 J.B.; cf. Col 1:20-22.
102 Eph 2:14.
103 Mt 5:9.
104 Cf. GS 78 § 5.
105 Cf. GS 81 § 4.
106 GS 79 § 4.
107 Cf. GS 79 § 5.
108 Cf. GS 79 § 3.
109 GS 79 § 4.
110 GS 80 #3.
111 Cf. Paul VI, PP 53.

[PerConPat]

I'm not familiar with Jewish Canon; but I find it difficult to believe it condones the removal of perfectly viable body parts, for mere convenience.

[nwrep]

Exodus chapter 21:22

[Olog-hai]

They’re no more enlightened than either of us. Remember the sins that they committed that ended up with them being taken to Babylon.

[stars & stripes forever]

GOD THE CREATOR SAYS...

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks artichokegrower.

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[Still Thinking]

The Torah is inspired scripture (the Pentateuch). The Talmud, OTOH, is a bunch of overeducated rabbis sitting around bloviating. From whence we get stuff like Corban and milk & meat in separate fridges.

[Olog-hai]

In Exodus chapter 21:22 of the Torah, we see a clear statement that a fetus is not a person: “When men fight, and one of them pushes a pregnant woman and a miscarriage results, but no other damage ensues, the one responsible shall be fined.”

This stands in sharp contrast with the next verse (Ex. 21:23), which makes clear that if the pregnant person themselves is injured, then the punishment is “a life for a life, an eye for an eye.”

The Torah couldn’t be more explicit: A fetus is not the same as a human life. …

That is a complete BS interpretation that does not say what the author claims it says.

[Macoozie]

So easy to destroy thie whole article, from so many angles . . ..

Low hangimng fruit left for others.

[EvilCapitalist]

Do you think he knows that Hebrew is written from right to left?

[Olog-hai]

Why are you posting a graphic from a Democratic propaganda machine?

[Olog-hai]

In addition, it’s a mistranslation.

[EvilCapitalist]

Haven’t you ever heard of the miraculous Butt Baby? Me neither.

[DallasBiff]

Exodus chapter 21:22, per the article.

Yeah so, the verse says if two men get into a fight, and a pregnant women is struck, and she gives premature birth, is that the aggressor who hurt the woman must pay child support.

This whole arguement is very convuluded.

[Gaffer]

So. The Jewish Religion demands abortion on demand is what this is saying?

[nwrep]

Yes, it is, but there is the chapter/verse reference. This is another line of attack against Republicans now. I have no confidence that Republican politicians have the savvy and the sophistication to know how to answer these tricky questions. They WILL stumble, and cause R’s to lose.