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Unvaccinated People Create Higher Risk for Vaccinated, Study Says
WebMD ^ | April 27, 2022

Posted on 04/28/2022 10:47:52 AM PDT by nickcarraway

People who don’t get vaccinated against COVID-19 are putting themselves in danger and also are creating a “disproportionate” threat to the health of vaccinated people, even in places with high vaccination rates, says a study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal.

The study by University of Toronto researchers used computer modeling based on the province of Ontario to predict infection rates when unvaccinated and vaccinated people mixed to varying degrees. The researchers worked in factors such as vaccine effectiveness, baseline immunity among the unvaccinated, and infection recovery rates.

Unvaccinated people were always at a higher risk of infection, the study said. Vaccinated people had lower infection rates when they mixed with other vaccinated people and lower rates when they mixed with unvaccinated people. The study found unvaccinated people enjoyed a lower infection rate when they mixed with vaccinated people because the vaccinated people served as a “buffer,” the study said.

“We found that the choices made by people who forgo vaccination contribute disproportionately to risk among those who do get vaccinated,” the researchers wrote.

“Although risk associated with avoiding vaccination during a virulent pandemic accrues chiefly to people who are unvaccinated, their choices affect risk of viral infection among those who are vaccinated in a manner that is disproportionate to the portion of unvaccinated people in the population.”

The research shows that not getting vaccinated is not just a personal decision, one of the study’s authors said in an interview.

“At the end of the day, this is about collective action. Unfortunately, in a communicable disease system – we’re all connected and that’s why we have to rely on public health for things like this,” David Fisman, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Toronto’s Dalla Lana School of Public Health, told Global News.

“The decision to get vaccinated can’t be framed as just a matter of personal choice because it has implications for the safety of other people in the community.”

Fisman told Forbes the findings support the idea of mandates, vaccine passports and other legal measures to limit unvaccinated people’s access to public spaces. Restrictions have been imposed to limit the spread of other infectious diseases and even prevent people from smoking tobacco in indoor public places, the study noted.

Government leaders should consider the study when setting policy in the future, the study said.

“It is unlikely that SARS-CoV-2 will be eliminated, and our findings will likely be relevant to future seasonal SARS-CoV-2 epidemics or in the face of emerging variants,” the study said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bs; coronafascism; covid19; fakenews; fakestudy; trumpvaccineaok; unvaccinated; vaccine; vaccines
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To: nickcarraway

“We found that the choices made by people who forgo vaccination contribute disproportionately to risk among those who do get vaccinated,” the researchers wrote.”

SWEET!

so if I don’t get boosted I am putting mostly liberals at more risk?

LMAO

well! dang! that’s another reason NOT to get boosted!


41 posted on 04/28/2022 11:03:11 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: nickcarraway

So we should be jabbed to protect the people who have been jabbed but are not protected by the jab from the people who have not taken the jab.
Right.
No.


42 posted on 04/28/2022 11:04:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: left that other site

Good.
Science is a process, not a religion.


43 posted on 04/28/2022 11:05:56 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: nickcarraway

To the authors of the study: GFY.


44 posted on 04/28/2022 11:06:52 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: nickcarraway

total BS....the mincing of words and coming to stupid conclusions, even a 9th grade bio student could decipher their methodology.


45 posted on 04/28/2022 11:08:36 AM PDT by cherry (;)
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To: nickcarraway

WebBSMD more like it.

🔬😨😷💉🐂💨💩💸


46 posted on 04/28/2022 11:11:09 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: nickcarraway; ransomnote

This is a blatant lie that is intended to serve as a pretext for fascist dictates.


47 posted on 04/28/2022 11:11:38 AM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: mikelets456
Excellent and accurate points all around.

Bottom line with regard to these "vaccines":
Just as with wearing a mask (although these potentially lethal vaccines* are significantly more dangerous), whether or not a person is vaccinated* has no effect on whether or not a person catches the Fauci Flu, transmits the Fauci Flu, or becomes ill with the Fauci Flu. There is no correlation.

*A medical term redefined in 2021 as a synonym for "therapeutic"

48 posted on 04/28/2022 11:12:53 AM PDT by glennaro (Live life unbullied and unafraid. Choose to ignore or fight the irrationality that surrounds you.)
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To: MercyFlush
I’m trying to follow the science of the protected needing protection from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that doesn’t protect the protected.

Excellent response! But my head is spinning, LOL!

49 posted on 04/28/2022 11:13:47 AM PDT by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: You just turned your immune system's functionality into a subscription service!)
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To: nickcarraway

Proving once again the fake vaccines don’t work 🤪


50 posted on 04/28/2022 11:14:00 AM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say i)
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To: Allegra
Bullfauci. Complete and utter bullfauci.

This article needs to be submitted to the newly created DHS Ministry of Truth for fact checking.

51 posted on 04/28/2022 11:15:30 AM PDT by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: You just turned your immune system's functionality into a subscription service!)
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To: nickcarraway
If this is true, it is proof -- by definition -- that the "vaccine" doesn't work.
52 posted on 04/28/2022 11:15:33 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: nickcarraway

Sounds like ramblings of drug addicted stupid people. The Fake Vaccine doesn’t work and they are admitting it by saying the un-jabbed pose a risk to the jabbed? Lock these fools up in a sanitarium before they hurt somebody


53 posted on 04/28/2022 11:16:04 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

One step further, I’m still non-GMO and as such I guess I put liberals even at more risk. Well dang!!! I’m walking death to liberals. Time to get out and mingle.

Just curious what level of disinfectant I would need to get their cooties off of me. LMAO.


54 posted on 04/28/2022 11:16:15 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: nickcarraway

You need to get vaccinated so I won’t catch what I was vaccinated against from you.


55 posted on 04/28/2022 11:17:10 AM PDT by red-dawg (How does confiscating money from us and giving it to chicken-little bureaucrats stop climate change?)
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To: nickcarraway

“modeling based” = garbage in, garbage out ...


56 posted on 04/28/2022 11:19:15 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: nickcarraway

🤡


57 posted on 04/28/2022 11:19:47 AM PDT by Bull Man
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To: Incorrigible; Veto!; metmom; George from New England; mewzilla; Jane Long
I didn't have time to read this substack post in it's entirety, but what I read was awesome. There are many "failable" findings/assumptions in this paper, that render it agitprop.

While we're at it, per Wikipedia...

Fisman was criticized by the Ontario government for acting as paid consultant for the Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario (ETFO), during which he provided evidence that did not support the governments reopening efforts.[13][14][15] This occurred while he was serving on the Science Advisory Table, whose director stated that his work with the ETFO "didn't violate any policies".[13] A Toronto City Councilor, viewed his efforts as pushing for government accountability.[13] Conversely, Dr. Euzebiusz Jamrozik from the bioethics research centre at the University of Oxford noted that this relationship should have been disclosed as a potential conflict of interest.[14] Fisman noted his relationship as an advisor to the ETFO on a January 26, 2021 disclosure form to the Science Advisory Table, but indicated that this was not related to COVID-19.[16]

Fisman also disclosed receiving honorarium for advisory roles from Pfizer, AstraZeneca and the Ontario Nurses' Association, related to COVID-19.[16]

58 posted on 04/28/2022 11:19:51 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: nickcarraway

I just did a study showing unvaccinated people’s poop is brown.


59 posted on 04/28/2022 11:20:25 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: nickcarraway
Vaccine efficacy is not proven to endure only up to 4.5 months before deterioration to the levels of an unvaccinated individual. With boosters shown to have efficacy with a duration of some 20 weeks before dropping to 10-15% per recent peer reviewed studies, one would need to ensure they were vaxxed or boosted every four months to retain the recorded 65-70% proven efficacy or it would nearly vanish if not maintained. I’m just quoting the doctors at this point.

I advocated vaccines for those at risk. Even my own mother but the J&J. She still got COVID but it was basically a flu and she recovered at home.

I never took it. Had one family member get the shingles within days of the Pfizer shot and another get myocarditis with Pfizer.

Hard pass.

60 posted on 04/28/2022 11:21:27 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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